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HensonYoung
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1851 Census - help with place of birth
« on: Friday 24 April 09 12:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi all, I'm searching for my g.g.grandmothers place of birth.  On the 1851 Census ANN JONES (I haven't found her maiden name yet) is recorded as a widow, head of household, 70 years old and born HuhHuh? where.  The transcription reads Mark Green, Shropshire but I cannot find this place on any map, I've goggled it ...... no joy.

On the census Ann b.about 1781 .... is living with her son John Jones b.about 1821 Bilston, Staffs his spouse Ann and their children Jane (my g.grandmother) Emma, John Thomas and Mary.  Yes, it's like searching for the needle in the haystack so if anyone has any suggestions/knowledge of where Ann's place of birth was I'll be truly grateful.  Kiss  Kiss

1851 Census ref : Staffs, Bilston District 4 page 27 H.O.107/2021

Ever hopeful
Polly
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Mum44
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 April 09 12:59 UTC (UK) »



Hi Polly   Smiley

Looks like Mark Green, Salop to me, on the image   Wink
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
HensonYoung
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 April 09 13:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mum44, thanks for your response.

Hmmmm certainly does, I agree ........... do you know where Mark Green is tho?
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 April 09 13:23 UTC (UK) »



Not at the moment  -  no   Sad

I can't see it on a map, on Google, nor on Genuki   Sad

Was she still alive in 1861  Huh
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
hepburn
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 April 09 13:39 UTC (UK) »

Ive been Googling...and I think it's Marsh green  in Shropshire..
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
Mum44
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 April 09 13:51 UTC (UK) »


Hi Hepburn  -  I've just got there too   Smiley

I couldn't see anything on Google, but there is another person on the 1851 whose place of birth is transcribed as Mark Green - and the image for that is clearly Marsh Green   Cheesy

There just doesn't seem to have been a Mark Green - it isn't in Phillimore's Atlas - although it could perhaps have been a hamlet  Undecided

But - I can't see anyone else either living in or saying born in Mark Green on any other census  Undecided
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
hepburn
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 April 09 13:59 UTC (UK) »

http://www.curiousfox.com/history/shropshire_19.html...Curious fox has Marsh green
http://www.pilatesnearby.com/classes/England/Shropshire/Marsh-Green/t30659 and A Pilates class if we want to go... Grin Grin
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
HensonYoung
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 April 09 15:00 UTC (UK) »

Hello again and thanks Mum44 and Hepburn for your help ...... had to walk the dogs and then straighten a few things in my head.......so forgive delay in responding ..... bless you both for suggesting Marsh Green ... I checked that out on my 'memory map' ordanance survey maps and now I can see that it's between Telford and Shrewsbury.  I'm not certain that Ann was still alive in 1861 ....... I found an Ann that could be her although age recorded as 75 and place of birth Wellington (that looks like Mellington!).  So onward and upward .... many thanks to both for your invaluable help.   The picture is a liitle clearer now and will help me to find her birth record ...... perhaps! Roll Eyes

Regards
Polly

Oh ..... think I'm a bit past pilates now  Grin don't know about you!!!

 
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 April 09 16:30 UTC (UK) »

Me too Grin
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
Mum44
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 April 09 16:36 UTC (UK) »




It'd finish me off, for sure   Grin  Grin
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
hepburn
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 April 09 16:46 UTC (UK) »

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl     Have you tried this? There are a couple of John Jones baptized around 1820 with his mother's name Ann.
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
HensonYoung
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 April 09 17:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Hepburn

Fantastic, thanks a bunch!!! Kiss
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 April 09 17:18 UTC (UK) »

Sorry I should have said ,the ones I found were for Bilston.
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
Daisypetal
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 25 April 09 13:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

In 1841 Marsh Green was in the township of Isombridge in the parish of Ercall Magna  eg; HO107/905/7  f.104  p.9. (Ercall Magana also seems to be known as High Ercall.)

Map;  http://www.archelou.co.uk/ercall_maps/extended_area_map.htm

This website has lots of info Smiley

http://www.archelou.co.uk/index.html


Regards
Daisy



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HensonYoung
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Re: 1851 Census - help with place of birth
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 25 April 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Well now Daisy, like Mum44 and Hepburn you are a gem, absolute treasurers one and all.  I am so impressed with the help and direction you all have given me.  I am still no further forward with tracing John Johns and his mother Ann but I'm anticipating cracking this one armed with the most appreciated info you have all passed on.  Thank you.

Very best regards
Polly  Kiss

Psssst and that damned cat has been digging in my garden again ...... damn thing .... I really would like to strangle it ...... hence the thingggy, the picture on the left there.   Grin Grin Grin
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