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Topic: Grace AITKEN, nee Tennant, Edinburgh (Read 2627 times)
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mamakaz
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the address is
10 Common Stair, County: Midlothian
veitch is not a common name, so maybe she is a relation,
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Veitch
ill see if i can find a link, x
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Mamakaz
Thank you again..................I suppose the address is in Edinburgh, as it seems like a street and then the county only?  or maybe its in, or near Penicuick?
And, as you say, not many Veitchs around! 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
And thank you............................Veitch being a rareish surname, there has to be a link, from Archibald Aitken, to possibly, Sarah Veitch, but what is it?
Jane Veitch, his paternal grandmother was born, 1791-2. I think the info you PM is correct??
cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
Back to Janet Bain, first wife of John Aitken....they were married 14 March, 1852, as Little Nell said, the marriage was proclaimed in two parishes (which?), and the poor woman died 1857. 
Don't know yet, when, or how, but assuming she may have died in childbirth, during her third child's delivery?
Children born: William Aitken, b. 31/10/1852 - Penicuick
Archibald Aitken, b. 15/2/1855 - Penicuick
John Aitken, b.8/3/1857 - West Linton
So, did Janet Aitken die 8/3/1857, giving birth to John, and did he die then to? 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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mamakaz
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ok, i found an archibald aitken b 1855 born in scotland
in the 1891 England Census
wifes name Christina living in Grange, Durham, England
Christina Aitken 33, Elizabeth Aitken 11, Robert Aitken 6,Christina Aitken 4
Archibald Aitken 3, William Aitken 1, Mary Aitken 2/12
this could be archi, maybe he went to england?
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Danchaslyn
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Mamakaz
This is brilliant.......... 
And it's amazing how one clue can jog memory................we have cousins, from way back from Durham, England, some now I know of in N.Yorkshire, from this family, and I always thought they were from the American cousin side of the family, but perhaps not??!! 
So, if this is our Archibald, I also remember Mamakaz, you mentioning before the possibility of Christina or Christian White being an Aitken?
And look who you turned up here...........Archibald and Christina!
Do you know what job he was doing? The Durham and N. Yorkshire cousins, were bankers, just like Robert Aitken and John Ellis Aitken in India, and Richard, but Richard still 'lost'?
Just brill, well done.... 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Little Nell
What a comprehensive posting, thank you so much. Firstly, need to explain, when I can I will attempt to buy Janet Bain's death cert, but where I live, I can only get dial-up internet, which is incredibly, painfully slow, and almost impossible to do downloads etc. 
Yes, I thought it possible that two marriage proclamations would indicate bride and groom living in two different parishes, so I thank you for that to.
Thank you for telling me where William and Archibald are living in Edinburgh, separately, in 1881, and as Archibald is living in a Veitch household (amazing how that surname keeps popping up!), he looks poised to take off to Durham, as Mamakaz has discovered.
What a lot of Aitkens, all over the place...........!! 
This tree is slowly unravelling.......
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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mamakaz
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yep, its deffo archi then, i sent you all the info pls documents in email linnea, x
1901 England Census Archibald and Cristina aitkins kids...
Robert Aitken 16 ,Christina Aitken 14,Archibald Aitken 13, William Aitken 11
Mary Aitken 10, John Aitken 8, Grace Aitken 6, Helen Aitken 4, Violet Aitken 1
Lily Aitken 11 Mo,
Elizabeth Bertram 21 / daughter
Norman Bertram 2 / grandson
Christian Bertram 1 / grandson
Alexander Jack 25 / boarder
cant find the family in the 1911 england census, i wonder if they went back to scotland?
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Mamakaz
My goodness, but Archibald and Christina decided it was cheaper by the dozen!!
AND, all the usual family names, just to help confuse us all!! 
How on earth are we going to discover which of all these children is the parent of the cousins??!!!!!!!!
I'll check emails in a min, but in the meanwhile, again, thank you very, very much........
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Mamakaz
I don't know if they went back to Scotland? and, of course, no 1911 Census for us there to look at!
Maybe they went to USA???!!!! Somehow or other the American cousins, obviously have to have come from someone in the UK?!
But, would anyone emigrate with SO many children and grandchildren in tow?
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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mamakaz
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ive just found them, looks like archi must have died or left coz there is only...
christina as head,
archibald/son 23yrs blast furnace, william 21yrs/ son blast furnace,
mary 20yrs/ daughter laundry maid, john 18yrs/son blast furnace,
helen 14yrs/daughter, violet 12yrs/daughter, lily 10yrs/daughter,
marjory 5yrs/daugh, alexandr jack boarder
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Danchaslyn
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Mamakaz
I'm gettin to tired to concentrate....................BUT, amazing, please check out your posting of 17.01 to-day and you will see the Jack ladies, with Archibald as a young apprentice grocer....................and, mostly through Archibald's adult life and as head of a household, he has, wait for it, Alexander JACK AS A BOARDER!!!
Also, I've seen the name Isabella somewhere in our Aitkens before,........can't concentrate enough now to try to link up?
And, which town are they in with Christina now as head of household on her own please?
What on earth happened to Arch?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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mamakaz
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lol, all the same names keep popping up,
the address was...
13 Chapel Road Jarrow, County Durham, south sheilds,
me too, im soooo sleepy, but we found out alot today, thanks everyone,
night all, xxxx
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