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zowster
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Census look ups please
« on: Saturday 25 April 09 09:33 UTC (UK) »

I am searching for Thomas Forsyth and Louisa Allen i know they were married in Derby in November 1881 but can't find them on census's. Thomas is born about 1861, his farther is James Forsyth a gardner.
Louisa is born about 1860 her father is Joseph Allen a labourer.

      Any help with these two will be most appreciated

                   Thanks Sharon
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 April 09 09:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sharon
Could this be them?
1901 Census for  Court Row, 187 Horningla?  Street, Burton on Trent Staffordshire
Thomas Forsyth     39 Brewers Labourer b Chester Cheshire
Lousia Forsyth    40 b Burton Staffs
Ellen Forsyth    13 General Domestic Servant b Burton Staffs
Thomas Forsyth    11 b Burton Staffs
Doris Forsyth    2 b Burton Staffs

RG13 Piece 2642 Folio 80 Page 26.

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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 April 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

Yes Wendy thats defo them but trying to work back from 1881 to find out about Thomas and Lousias families is proving really difficult.

                              Sharon

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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 April 09 09:58 UTC (UK) »

How about this for Thomas??

1871
Cottage, Clock Hill, Swepstone leics

James Forsyth head m 35? Head gardener Anner??? Dumfrieshire
Ellen wife 40 Lonan? isle of man
THOMAS son 8 Scholar Hoole Cheshire
James son 7 Scholar Swepstone leics
John son 5 Scholar Swepstone
George son 3 swepstone

RG10 3243 89 1

Suz
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »

Yes Suz i am 100% positive thats the family.

                Thank you Sharon
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:07 UTC (UK) »

hmmm ... might not find Louisa with parents then ?

1871 - RG10/2908; Folio: 18; Page: 30 - Horninglow, Burton on Trent
4, Victoria Crescent


Eliza Stretton    58 Head Ashby de la Zouche, Leics
Walter Stretton    22 son Cooper Burton, Staffs
Louisa Allen    9 Visitor Burton
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »

might have to go Birth Cert route - theres at least 3 Joseph Allens in the area in 1861 ... and one in 1871 in Burton, a Widower, Brewers Labourer with a dau Agnes c1864

RG10/2904; Folio: 103; Page: 25


Births Mar 1861    
 
Allen  Louisa    Burton  v6b p310
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:23 UTC (UK) »

Can't locate Thomas' family in 1881 but this looks like them in 1891/1901

1891
189 Hornhinglow St Burton on trent
James Forsyrh head m gardener Scotland
Ellen wife isle of man
Margaret E daughter U 19 general servant Swepstone leics
James son U 27 General lab Sweptone
RG12 2201 149 29

1901
10 High Bank Rd Winshill staffs
Albert Bannister Head m 32 Cab proprietor Tutbury Staffs
Ellen wife 29 Swepstone leics ( margaret Ellen in 1891?)
Reginald son 2 Burton on Trent Staffs
Gladys M daughter 11mth Winshill Derbys
James Forsyth father in law married 65 Gardener domestic Scotland
Ellen Forsyth mother in law 72 Isle of Man

RG13 2648 21 34

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Mar qtr 1898
burton on Trent
Albert bannister
margaret Ellen Forsyth
6b 421

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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:25 UTC (UK) »

Sharon,

Who were the witnesses on marriage cert ??

could they give further clues for Louisa's family??

Suz
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 April 09 10:37 UTC (UK) »

The witnesses are James Forsyth and Edgar Allen. Thanks for your help so far its great.

                        Sharon
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 April 09 12:40 UTC (UK) »

so possiblyJames Fordyth (witness) could have been Thomas brother (or father) - so wonder if Edgar was Louisa's brother??

Suz
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Re: Census look ups please
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 25 April 09 12:42 UTC (UK) »

Thats what i thought but haven't been able to find a match for edgar so far.

                 Sharon
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