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Topic: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there? (Read 541 times)
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mamakaz
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hi there, x
i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family,
and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?
my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923, i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father, my mum has wonderful childhood memory's of visiting Yorkshire in 1960's, ill have to find the photo's,
i will be going back as far as i can with the Plant family, so if theres anyone
out there with Plant connections, come and join me,
1901 England Census
Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head)
his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire,
they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham
Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ? (would this be railway?)
Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page)
Lilian Plant 3yrs daughter
John T Lamb 19yrs Boarder, platelayer
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then in 1911 census they were living in
East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding
Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter
Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny)
Arthur Plant 5yrs son
William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been
to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.
ok, hope to hear from someone, thanks for reading,
kaz, x
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mamakaz
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i think this could be my Arthur...
in the 1871 England Census
Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son born Charndon, Buckinghamshire,
dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire
living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Joseph Plant agricultural labourerer
Sarah Plant
William James Plant 7yrs/son
Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter
Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son
Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son
Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son
also i noticed on the census in the same street is...
Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour
Martha/wife 33yrs
Miriam?/daughter 13yrs
Diana/daughter 11yrs
John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?)
Samual/son 7yrs
Betsy/daughter 4yrs
Thomas/son 2yrs
Anne/daughter 2months
could be a brother of Joseph?
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madpants
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NER is the North Eastern Railway
Plate layers were trackmen. The term dates back to the earliest days of the railways when they were known as plateways and were built using short sections of iron bar or angle sections, rather than the rails we know today. as the photo's show, a plate layer would be responsible for all aspects of track maintenance such as replacing worn out rails or rotten sleepers, packing to ensure a level track, weeding and clearance of the drains etc.
My GGrandfather was a platelayer too 
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SCRAFTON - Darlington
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mamakaz
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hi madpants, x
thanks, thats interesting, now i know
ive found lots today, ill post in here when im finished, just incase there are plants out there, somewhere, HELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
That's a great answer from Madpants about platelayers...........and the N.E.R. Up here in the Highlands we have the G.N.E.R., which is the Great North Eastern Railway.
Also, one of our family, Frederick William Cook, (late 19C), of Sculcoates, nr Hull, Yorkshire, was a Railway Carm................Madpants, is this Carman? 
And would you please be kind enough to share what you know a Carm on the railways is? 
Mamakaz, its Spring, your arboretum needs to expand, please, please, where are these plants???
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
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mamakaz
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hi dan, x
lol, and i need to get my peas planted
ok, there is no one on RC researching plants but ill post what ive found
just incase there is anyone in the future.
Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England
parents
Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England
Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...
Mary Ann 1866
Thomas 1867
Frederick 1869
Arthur b: 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Herbert 1873
Kezia 1876
John 1878
Florence 1879
Edith 1881
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Sarah HODGES parents
Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England
Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Samuel 20 DEC 1829
Sarah 12 DEC 1830
James 22 JAN 1832
Robert 6 OCT 1833
William 12 APR 1835
Thomas 10 SEP 1837
Jesse 6 OCT 1839
Harriett 17 OCT 1841
Edward 19 NOV 1843
Sarah 11 MAY 1845
Benjamin 27 DEC 1846
George 2 APR 1848
Mark 5 JAN 1851
Thomas 23 MAY 1853
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Thomas Hodges parents...
Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mother: SARAH
(In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant
(my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)
they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Thomas 10 DEC 1797
James 18 MAY 1800
Samuel 15 AUG 1802
Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805
John 29 NOV 1807
Susannah 3 FEB 1811
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John Hodges parents...
William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England
ELIZABETH
they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...
William 6 MAY 1770
Mary 12 JAN 1772
John 25 DEC 1773
Elizabeth 15 SEP 1776
Thomas 29 AUG 1779
Nancy 21 OCT 1781
Sarah 30 NOV 1783
Jane 20 AUG 1786
Abigail 6 SEP 1789
Rebecca 13 FEB 1791
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William Hodges parents...
John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England
Ann SMITH
29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...
Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739
Ann 14 MAR 1741
William ABT 1743
Mary 25 MAR 1744
John 27 JUL 1746
Thomas 19 FEB 1748
Catherine 3 FEB 1750
Sarah 3 FEB 1750
Samuel 3 JAN 1753
Sarah 14 MAR 1756
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
What wonderful family facts you've unearthed now........!!
Lets hope that someone, somewhere, very, very soon, connected to your Plants, will rapidly get in touch with you???
Personally, I'm a rose fancier myself, but love the scent of Sweet Peas, also Freesias......please Plants, respond to Mamakaz, and get your Tree branching out.......
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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YUILL, U.S.A.
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mamakaz
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hi Dan, xxxx
i love roses too but i never have any luck with them,
ok, here is what i have so far...
Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))
James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks,
Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England
John 1849
Jonas 1852
Jane 1854
Jemima 1857
Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census
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Kesia Parkers parents...
Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England
Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England
they had 8 children...
Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Mary 19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
John 16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Thomas 9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Isaac 20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kerenhappuck 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kesia 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents
Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Ann DRAPER
Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
children...
John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...
Richard ROBERTS
Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
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Sarah Parkers parents
John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
MARY
they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon
Anne 7 MAY 1704
Anne 16 DEC 1705
Mary 28 JAN 1708
Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710
John PARKER MAY 1712
Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714
Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718
Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721
Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722
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ok, thats as far as ive got, i have gaps and missing BDM's so if any
Plants, Hodges, Parkers, Drapers and Roberts may be able to correct and/or
fill in the gaps,
thanks for reading, kaz, xxxx
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
Would send you a whole big bunch of roses, if I could, for all the wonderful work you've done on the Plants.......................and, to get SO far back, that is truly amazing! 
I'm also posting this to show you that someone is reading your thread!!! 
Where are current Plants? I've asked all my family and they are going to try come up with some, that they may have come across down the years!!!!
Wonder if you placed the same Topic in England, Bucks, if you might find some actual living Plants? 
Good luck to you gal.............
Cheers
Danchaslyn
xxxxx
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mamakaz
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hi dan, x
i wish i could take all the credit for my plants, i managed to get back to martha (kesia's mum), then i found a bucks website, i typed in kesia parker (who married my james), and her whole family were there (so i didnt need to do any work there) same with the other maternal lines,
so i just got lucky
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=hrohrer
i need to find out more about Arthurs wife now, ill have to order their marriage cert if i cant get her maiden name, i was hoping there would be someone researching plants on here, but ive found another website which i will post the family on and see if i get any luck there,
okie's, im gonna spend a few hours searching for your richard today, i must be able to find something on him, hugs kazzie, xxxx
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Kaz
Again, I'm so happy that this side of your family's research has gone so well for you
Still can't believe that not a single Plant, nor anyone else researching this family has contacted you??
Anyway, I'm longing for news of Richard Aitken, so any news welcome, even if he did die in the 1918 'flu pandemic, as I think he may have done, which would explain his almost non existence after possibly 1891 or so, when we know, he was working as a bank clerk, possibly in Edinburgh?
Isn't Kesia a lovely name?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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mamakaz
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hi Dan, xx
Kesia is a beautiful name apparently it is of African origin and means favourite.
im gonna take your advice and post in the Bucks forum, like you say, may find some living plants, kaz, xxxx
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Mamakaz
Hmmmmm........no wonder I like Kesia, African origin!
And, yesssssss, I have a real, live, thriving Plant for you...............not A. Plant, but, 'C.Plant', he/she is to be found in the South African White Pages, and is living in a well to do section of Durban, in KwaZulunatal.
I could phone and ask if they from Yorkshire??
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Whart
William, WELCOME to RootsChat!
Am I thrilled that you have posted on Mamakaz's "Plant" thread..........not sure though if you're asking Mamakaz, or myself about the Greenwell's?
Your post must be for Mamakaz.........................
Take care
Danchaslyn
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