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grantleydawn
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HOTCHKIN burial
« on: Monday 03 August 09 22:46 UTC (UK) »

I am trying to find the burial location of Thomas HOTCHKIN, who died 4 Jun 1843. I am hoping it will lead me to a church memorial that will hint at his parents names.

From the Gentleman's magazine "Obituary: 1843: Rutland - June 4. Aged 69, Thomas Hotchkin, esq. of Tixover House, Rutland, and Woodhall Lodge, Lincolnsh."

Can anyone help me?

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Geoff-E
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 07:34 UTC (UK) »

National Burial Index has a burial 10 June 1843 at South Luffenham (Rutland) aged 69.

There appears to be a document written about him
http://www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl/wwwopac.exe?&qDB=catalo&DATABASE=dcatalo&LANGUAGE=0&rf=200818735&SUCCESS=false

See No.28 http://www.rutlandhistory.org/therutlandrecord.html
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grantleydawn
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 08:28 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou, Geoff

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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 09:12 UTC (UK) »

Also a couple of references to Woodhall Spa when you google the name

http://www.woodhallspa-museum.co.uk/dev_spa/came-synd/came-synd.html
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grantleydawn
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 10:01 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou Glen.

I still haven't found any details of memorials at, I guess it is, St Mary the Virgin, South Luffenham.

I have found that Thomas HOTCHKIN married Mary-Anne, eldest daughter of Henry O'Brien.

Now all I need on this topic is the parents of this Thomas HOTCHKIN.

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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

I don't know if you have been able to work sideways from Thomas and find potential siblings.

There are several references to the name in Lincolnshire, Leicestershire and Cambridgeshire on The National Archives (TNA) website. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

You may already have a copy of his will but if not it is available for download from the website as a PDF document for £3.50 (GBP).

Will of Thomas Hotchkin of Tixover , Rutland
Date 27 April 1844
Catalogue reference PROB 11/1997 

It also appears there are further documents from the trustees of the will dating to 1847.


I wonder if the Cambridgeshire link goes a little further back in time as there is also a reference on TNA that might be worth investigating further,

Held at Cambridgeshire Archives
Copies of Lease and Release to make a tenant of the precipe.  R10/3/18  21st-22nd November 1796




"Thomas Hotchkin, late of Clare Hall in the University of Cambridge, but now of Uppingham, Rutland, Esq., only son and heir of Robert Hotchkin of Stamford, Lincs, Esq., deceased, who was brother and heir at law of Thomas Hotchkin of Alexton, Lincs Esq., deceased, who was grandson, heir and devisee of John Hotchkin, rector of Abbots Ripton, deceased, to John Kinderley of Symonds Inn, Chancery Lane, Middlesex, gent. Several closes or grounds inclosed in Ramsey containing 60 acres"
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grantleydawn
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 11:16 UTC (UK) »

Wow. Thankyou Glen.

You said "I don't know if you have been able to work sideways from Thomas and find potential siblings."

That is what I was doing. I was trying to prove that Thomas was a sibling of my ancestor Mary Ann HOTCHKIN, daughter of Robert HOTCHIN & Sarah, and therefore get a lead to more ancestors.

You have found what I haven't been able to do.
My ancestor was Robert HOTCHKIN, buried 5th Aug 1796.

Your find (R10/3/18  21st-22nd November 1796) is the perfect answer.

Thankyou so much.

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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

You're welcome Grantley.

There are around 50 results on the TNA website when searching Hotchkin, some may be a different family but there must be a few realting to your family.

Not all can be downloaded but the results will tell you where the records are held and give a brief description of what they are. I have chipped away at a few brick walls thanks to the older wills and other documents.

Another useful site you might not know about is www.freereg.org.uk, it has quite a few Hotchkin results for Linolnshire and might help with locations and dates that fit your family. It isn't complete yet (updated about once a month) but worth visiting every once in a while.
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grantleydawn
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou Glen.

This is going to keep me occupied for awhile, now that I have the missing key.

I an not aware of any other researcher who has the ancestry of Mary Ann HOTCHKIN, who married
Thomas AVELING on 28 Oct 1799 at St Mary, Stamford, Lincoln, then
Henry HAYNES on 4 Sep 1806  at Saint Mary, Stamford, Lincoln.

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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 10:42 UTC (UK) »

I have ancestors in and around the Grantham, Colsterworth and Bourne areas over a long period, none connected to your family that i know of but fortunately they do appear in several documents as well as the more usual census, bmd and parish records etc.

I probably know more about the lives of those from 200 years ago than many from 50 years ago really as there seems to be a lot of evidence for the area preserved at the archives.

It's interesting to see the Aveling name in your post, i wonder if there is a connection to the (much later) engineering company which bore the name?

Best leave it at that, you don't need too many sidelines to head down  Smiley
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grantleydawn
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 11:05 UTC (UK) »

My Mary Ann HOTCHKIN is the grandmother of Thomas Aveling, of the engineering company Aveling & Porter.

Is seems that AVELING researchers followed the male line, leaving people like me to follow the female side.

I have now compiled a detailed HOTCHKIN tree, back to 1642, but I need to validate it. There is a publication "Burke’s genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry", by Bernard Burke, 18th Ed, 1965. It contains a Lineage of the HOTCHKIN family.

I just can't seem to get a copy of those pages to compare with my tree.

There is one other book that is eluding me. “Genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry: founded by the late Sir Bernard Burke” – 1937. That also has HOTCHKIN references.

Other than those books, I think I have read every other reference to the HOTCHKINS on GoogleBooks.

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Grantley
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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: HOTCHKIN burial
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

There are also several references to the Hotchkin name in the London Gazette, you may already know the site but here is a link just in case

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/


Now if i could only find the missing key i need for my tree i could jump back several generations at once. A couple of generations to find in the 1600's is all i need to make the link. Sounds easy when you type it out!!
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