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George Dawson
« on: Tuesday 05 May 09 01:28 UTC (UK) »

Looking for further information for a George Dawson who married a Rebecca Barton. I believe George was born about 1865. he had 2 brothers that I know of Edward and Arthur. Now George had a son James abt 1920 (Jim) and apparently James had 13 brothers and sisters. Can any one shed some light on this family?
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 08:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Branching Out,

Is this the family in 1901?

1901
RG13/3205 6 3
Melbourne, Nottinghamshire
Station Road
4 rooms occupied

George Dawson, head, 30, Waggoner on Farm
Rebecca, wife, 22
George Harry, son, 11 mo

All born Derbyshire Melbourne

Marriage George Dawson to possibly Rebecca Barton Dec 1896 Shardlow 7b 923

George's age seems to be 44 in 1911 - 6 children in the household (George, Arthur, Edward, William, Ena, Frank). Searching FreeBMD for Dawson children registered in Shardlow with mother's maiden name Barton, there are 6 more between 1913 and 1925 (Leslie T, Sidney J, Phyllis M, Jim, Jack, Stanley)

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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 May 09 08:56 UTC (UK) »

George Dawson in 1871 - maybe you already have this?
RG10/3552 106 26
Melbourne, Derbyshire
New York - Moira St

George Dawson, head, 50, Ag lab, b. Melbourne
Mary, wife, 43, b. Kent Lenham?
Emily, dau in law, 11, Nurse, b. Melbourne (I found her as Emily Langridge in 1861)
Edward, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
George, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Arthur, son, 1, b. do.

George seems to have been previously married to a Dorothy.
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 01:08 UTC (UK) »

This must b the right family, 12 siblings, and yes George was married to a Dorothy prior to Mary I believe. Mary's last name was Langridge and I believe her fathers name was George. I would be curious to know if Emily was a sister to Mary or If Mary had a son prior to being married and Emily was his wife. you show her age as 11, was that a misprint  do you think on the census?
This is certainly the right family, is there any sign of them in other census years?
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 May 09 06:54 UTC (UK) »

Don't you think Emily is likely to have been Mary's daughter? ("Daughter in law" meaning in fact stepdaughter)

Which census year/s are you looking for?  Smiley

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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 May 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati
I guess I'm a little puzzled, I always find that when you get the infomation you want you do not expect to see unfamiliar names thrown in. I am totally intrigued by the fact that there was an Emily in the household and as I have never been able to figure out who Mary's parents and siblings were, I am very curious to know who this Emily is as she may be a crucial link to finding out more on Mary (Langridge) Dawson. I really want to thank you for the information you have passed on already. Any further information that you can supply on Emily, I would certainly appreciate it.
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 May 09 17:35 UTC (UK) »

Is there any sign of Arthur  in 1891 or 1901
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 May 09 18:07 UTC (UK) »

Here's the 1861 census for Emily for a start:

1861
RG9/2489 64 21
Melbourne, Derbyshire

Thomas Barefoot, head, 57, Ag lab, b. Derbyshire Ticknall
Mary, wife, 53, b. do.
Selina, dau, 11, scholar, b. Melbourne
Emily Langridge, lodger, 1, at nurse, b. do.

... and George and Mary

1861
RG9/2489 63 20
Melbourne, Derbyshire
New York
Moira Street

George Dawson, head, 40, Ag lab, b. Melbourne
Mary A, wife, 34, b. Kent Lenham
Fanny, dau, 15, Glove Stitcher, b. Melbourne

Funny that! George and Mary were married on the very day of the census!!

The IGI has their marriage:
George Dawson (father Edward Dawson) - Mary Ann Langridge (father George Langridge)
7 April 1861, Melbourne, Derbyshire
 
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 May 09 18:50 UTC (UK) »

Here's Arthur in 1891 and 1901:

1891
RG12/2720 63 14
Melbourne, Derbyshire
Moira Street
4 rooms occupied

George Dawson, head, 70, Farm labourer, b. Melbourne
Mary Ann, wife, 64, b. Kent Maidstone
George, son, 24, Gardener's Labourer, b. Melbourne
Arthur, son, 21, Gardener's Labourer, b. do.
 
1901
RG13/3205 18 3
Melbourne, Derbyshire
Woodhouses
3 rooms occupied

George Dawson, head, 81, Living on own means, b. Melbourne
Arthur, son, mar, 31, Waggoner, b. do.
Clara, son's wife, mar, 32, b. do.
George, grandson, 8, b. do.
Mary, granddau, 6, b. do.
Gertrude, granddau, 2, b. do.
Sarah M, granddau, 9 mo, b. do.
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 May 09 02:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati
So much information, thank you!
Where to begin in asking further questions, do you have access to 1841 or 1851 to see if you can spot George with his father edward or Mary with her father George?

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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 May 09 05:57 UTC (UK) »

I've spent ages trying to find Mary Ann in 1851 and 1841 but I'm getting nowhere ... I hope someone else can see what I can't  Smiley

George:

1851
HO107/2140 335 34
Melbourne, Derbyshire
Moira Street - New York

George Dawson, head, 29, Ag lab, b. Melbourne
Dorothy, wife, 24, Glove Stitcher, b. Belper

1841
HO107/191 22 54 8
Melbourne, Derbyshire
Calke Mill House

George Dawson, 20, Male Servant, born in county

in the household of Francis Woodward, Farmer

There doesn't seem to be an Edward Dawson old enough to be George's father living in Melbourne in 1841.
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Branching Out,

Is this the family in 1901?

1901
RG13/3205 6 3
Melbourne, Nottinghamshire
Station Road
4 rooms occupied

George Dawson, head, 30, Waggoner on Farm
Rebecca, wife, 22
George Harry, son, 11 mo

All born Derbyshire Melbourne

Marriage George Dawson to possibly Rebecca Barton Dec 1896 Shardlow 7b 923

George's age seems to be 44 in 1911 - 6 children in the household (George, Arthur, Edward, William, Ena, Frank). Searching FreeBMD for Dawson children registered in Shardlow with mother's maiden name Barton, there are 6 more between 1913 and 1925 (Leslie T, Sidney J, Phyllis M, Jim, Jack, Stanley)

 In the 1911 you indicated the children that were listed, what were the ages of these children.

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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »

You can search the 1911 census index for free at www.1911census.co.uk  Smiley


 
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Re: George Dawson
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 May 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati

I did not realize that we could search 1911 for free. I will follow up on some of these names.
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