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MrBluesman
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 May 09 15:58 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for the info on the directories not really much there to help me but worth me remembering for future reference. I think I need the info from PRONI on the workhouse inmate registers. I am still puzzled as to why William went to Ireland whenthe main Hatting industry was in Stockport and Denton where he lived previously.

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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 05:49 UTC (UK) »
Hi Everyone, The directories didn't list William or Minnie that I could see they did however have a possibility of one of the witnesses at their wedding. I also noticed that there was a number of hatters in that area. It doesn't help me much but it does look like there was a hatting industry in Ireland at that time. I have had a reply back from PRONI not much help either they gave me a list of possible archives that they have for Workhouses but it was all info they had on their site and not the actual info in the records. So if anyone is going there and they have some free time then please get in touch and I will give you as much as I can.

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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 10:08 UTC (UK) »
Hi Mr Bluesman - sorry haven't been online for a while.  I haven't been to PRONI for a while but if I'm heading up at any time I will give you a shout.  I just can't promise when I will be going.  I've never done research for the workhouse - do you need specific permission?   When I was doing H & W research I had to get specific permission and just wondered if the same applied  Huh
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kingskerswell
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »
Bo,
     All workhouse documentation is available except for that which falls within the 100 year rule. One exception is information which is outwith the 100 years but contained in a record book which has other information within the 100years. Eg You may find an inmate register covering the years1900 to 1915. You will need special permission to look at it.

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Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim
Bo
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 12:43 UTC (UK) »
many thanks kingskerswell  Smiley
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MrBluesman
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 14 July 09 18:27 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bo

Thanks for the offer and if you are heading to PRONI please give me a shout I would be interested in seeing what you find. I will put something together which contains all the info I have and then PM it to you.

Thanks Again

Andrew
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Again

Does anyone have access to emeraldancestors that can check deaths for John Magill I think start around 1892 and come more recent?

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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »
Hi Andrew,
                Only one listed as JACK in Co. Antrim.
16 Dec 1904 Larne 1st Presbyterian Church Jack Magill married Mary Mcgookin.

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Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »
Mr Bluesman,
                     My apologies I initially read your posting as Jack. However there are several Johns who may fit the bill. Do you have an address?.

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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 14:56 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: MrBluesman on Wednesday 02 September 09 11:41 UTC (UK)
Hi Again

Does anyone have access to emeraldancestors that can check deaths for John Magill I think start around 1892 and come more recent?

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Andrew
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 16:59 UTC (UK) »
Hi

The only info I have is off Minnie's Marriage certificate which is
Wife Firstname  MARY
Wife Surname  MAGILL
Wife Townland / Street  26 LOUISA ST
Wife Occupation   
Wife Age  22
Wife Denomination  Church of Ireland
Wife Marital Status  Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Wife Father Firstname  JOHN
Wife Father Surname  MAGILL
Wife Father Occupation  LABOURER

So don't know if the address was where he lived

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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:09 UTC (UK) »
The address on the marriage certificate is the address of the bride at the time of the marriage which may, or may not, be were she was born or where her family was living.
Irish marriage certificates do not list the religion of bride and groom and just because the father is listed it doesn't mean that he was still alive at the time of the marriage.
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 18:20 UTC (UK) »
Hi I was asked the question if I had an address this is the only address I have in Ireland I did say I didn't know if he lived there or not. I am also aware that he may have already died but tell me what other starting point I can use?
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Re: Workhouse
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »
Hi

You could try the Wills calendars at the Public Records Office (PRONI). It is available online at http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars/wills_search.htm

Please note that the Wills calendars only have the names of people who made a Will or if relatives filed for Letters of Administration.

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