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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 07 May 09 11:50 UTC (UK) »

I don't usually believe in coincidences. This might be the exception that proves the rule
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #16 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Roger,

I think the William Brignell aged 67 of Cambridge Place buried 18 April 1851 St. Paul's Church, is your William's father. 

That would give a birth year of c. 1784 and in the 1841 his age is given as 55,
giving a birth year of c. 1786, assuming this was rounded down for the census, 1784 would fit.

There does not appear to be a death registered for this William Brignell/Brignall in 1851.  There is one for a William Bricknell and I wonder if a error was made.

As the 1851 census was taken on 30 March he should appear on there but as I use Findmypast (who do not yet have the full 1851 available) I can't look for him.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #17 on: Friday 08 May 09 13:57 UTC (UK) »

HO107/1760 folio 71
Cambridge Place, St Andrew the Less
William Brignell head marr 67 Labourer b Duxford
Hannah Brignell wife 47 b Cambridge
John Brignell son 17 labourer b Cambridge
Richard Brignell son 12 scholar b Cambridge
Alfred Brignell son 7 scholar b Cambridge

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #18 on: Friday 08 May 09 14:31 UTC (UK) »

That's good David - I think that clinches it then!

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #19 on: Friday 08 May 09 19:38 UTC (UK) »

Thanks David, So he was alive in 1851,now for 1861! Though it might be coincidence about Adolphus remembering my grandmother's attitude to her extended family, I am still extremely doubtful, and think that there is probably a link, if only I can find it. But William is more important.
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #20 on: Friday 08 May 09 19:47 UTC (UK) »

Hannah Brignell is a widow in the 1861 census so I think the burial of William in 1851 I gave above is definitely the one you want.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #21 on: Friday 08 May 09 19:54 UTC (UK) »

That sounds a good bet Selina, thanks again. By the way I intend to visit Cambridge record office soon. Is there a bus link from the station, and how far is it to walk?
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #22 on: Friday 08 May 09 19:58 UTC (UK) »

Don't walk.  Its too far and you will waste valuable time.  I will try and find out about the buses for you, I have a map of them somewhere.  I usually bike.

Phone first to make sure you don't go on a busy day and not get access.  They close for lunch.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #23 on: Friday 08 May 09 20:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Selina, I shall book well in advance, but don't know when yet. You still use bikes in Cambridge then; using one here (Bournemouth ) would be lethal. I used to bike to work when I lived in Doncaster, packed up in 1986 when I had a very near miss, a car actually touched me in rush hour traffic. I realised that one with my name on it was too close!!
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #24 on: Friday 08 May 09 20:17 UTC (UK) »

Yes Roger we are still a big biking place!  Now have an excellent undercover bike park in the centre of the city.

You had a really bad experience and I think wise to heed the warning.

Not sure if you know that Cambridge Place is only about 7 minutes walk from the station.  However it bears no resemblance whatsoever now to the place your ancestors lived.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #25 on: Friday 08 May 09 20:21 UTC (UK) »

Again don't know if you have this link   
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/

Click on Messageboards on the left hand side and you will find a category
'Cambridgeshire Memories'.  People use this for various things including family history or just local knowledge etc.  Might come in handy.  You just have to register in order to post.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #26 on: Friday 08 May 09 20:29 UTC (UK) »

Will do Selina, I must find out whether the Brignells in the decorating business or related to me.
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #27 on: Friday 08 May 09 20:35 UTC (UK) »

In my 1930/31 Spaldings Cambridge Directory there are two Builders firms with the name Brignell:

J. Brignell, 42 Newmarket Road, Cambridge  (this was quite a large firm)

J. Brignell & Son, 196 Victoria Road, Cambridge.

Selina
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 09 May 09 18:50 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Selina, Do you have any detail as to when they were founded? My guess is that they are from the same family, and one was formed out of the other after a family dispute; but of course I don't know.
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Re: William Brignell (Brignall)
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 09 May 09 21:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Roger,

I have looked on Brignell the builders adverts in several old Kelly's but on none of them do they say when established which is a pity.

We know that John Brignell a builder was living at 42 Newmarket Road in 1910 and the firm stayed at that address for very many years. 

When our main library eventually re-opens I could look at other directories, or you could do so at the Record Office when you visit. 

Will bear that subject in mind anyway.

Selina
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