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mamakaz
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hi there, x i already posted this in the North riding forum....and thanks to the link... MUST SEE LINK If your ancestors came from Bucks posted by allycat i married up my plants to their maternal lines.
i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family, and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?
my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923, i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father, so if anyone can claim and/or correct the info i have, would be great to hear rom you, kaz, x
in the 1871 England Census Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son born Charndon, Buckinghamshire, dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Joseph Plant agricultural labourerer Sarah Plant William James Plant 7yrs/son Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son
also i noticed on the census in the same street is... Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour Martha/wife 33yrs Miriam?/daughter 13yrs Diana/daughter 11yrs John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?) Samual/son 7yrs Betsy/daughter 4yrs Thomas/son 2yrs Anne/daughter 2months
could be a brother of Joseph?
1901 England Census Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head) his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire, they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ? Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page) Lilian Plant 3yrs daughter John T Lamb 19yrs Boarder, platelayer ......................................
then in 1911 census they were living in East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny) Arthur Plant 5yrs son William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.
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Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England parents Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...
Mary Ann 1866 Thomas 1867 Frederick 1869 Arthur b: 1871 Elizabeth 1873 Herbert 1873 Kezia 1876 John 1878 Florence 1879 Edith 1881
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Sarah HODGES parents Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Samuel 20 DEC 1829 Sarah 12 DEC 1830 James 22 JAN 1832 Robert 6 OCT 1833 William 12 APR 1835 Thomas 10 SEP 1837 Jesse 6 OCT 1839 Harriett 17 OCT 1841 Edward 19 NOV 1843 Sarah 11 MAY 1845 Benjamin 27 DEC 1846 George 2 APR 1848 Mark 5 JAN 1851 Thomas 23 MAY 1853
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Thomas Hodges parents... Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England Mother: SARAH (In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant (my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)
they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks
Thomas 10 DEC 1797 James 18 MAY 1800 Samuel 15 AUG 1802 Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805 John 29 NOV 1807 Susannah 3 FEB 1811
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John Hodges parents... William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England ELIZABETH
they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...
William 6 MAY 1770 Mary 12 JAN 1772 John 25 DEC 1773 Elizabeth 15 SEP 1776 Thomas 29 AUG 1779 Nancy 21 OCT 1781 Sarah 30 NOV 1783 Jane 20 AUG 1786 Abigail 6 SEP 1789 Rebecca 13 FEB 1791 ..........................
William Hodges parents... John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England Ann SMITH 29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England
they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...
Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739 Ann 14 MAR 1741 William ABT 1743 Mary 25 MAR 1744 John 27 JUL 1746 Thomas 19 FEB 1748 Catherine 3 FEB 1750 Sarah 3 FEB 1750 Samuel 3 JAN 1753 Sarah 14 MAR 1756 ...........................
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Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))
James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks, Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England
John 1849 Jonas 1852 Jane 1854 Jemima 1857
Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census
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Kesia Parkers parents...
Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England
they had 8 children...
Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire Mary 19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire John 16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire Thomas 9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks Isaac 20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks Kerenhappuck 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks Kesia 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents
Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks Ann DRAPER Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
children... John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
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Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...
Richard ROBERTS Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
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Sarah Parkers parents
John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks MARY
they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon
Anne 7 MAY 1704 Anne 16 DEC 1705 Mary 28 JAN 1708 Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710 John PARKER MAY 1712 Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714 Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718 Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721 Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722
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teddybibbins
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Hi, My daughter just rang me to notify me of your search, as I am searching for the Plant family of Charndon as well, I am so excited... I will tell you my story so far, We have always known that my Mother was adopted, but had no knowledge of her family, she was born in 1933. Recently her adoption papers have come to light, and I have been researching ever since. She was born in Charndon to a Rosetta Spencer, who is the daughter of a Ernest and Kezia Spencer. Kezia was formerly a Plant. She was born 1884.
I will post back tomorow when I have all the details of what I know in front of me. Just wanted to respond now as this is a side of our family that I am just begining to find out about.
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mamakaz
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hi teddy, x
its so nice to hear from someone researching Plants, at last 
(hugs to dan, xxxx)
ive not been on for a while as my pc had a virus and i had to re format, so i lost all my research notes and BDM certs (that will teach me not to back up) about 4 months work up the swannee 
ive had a quick look and found this....
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teddybibbins
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Hello, Wow, you have been busy, I think you have found pretty much the same as me. I have received the marriage certificate of Ernest Fred Spencer and Kezia Ellen Plant dated Feb 11th 1904, Fathers name Joseph Plant Witnesses - Jesse Thomas Plant - Florence J Plant Florence has signed her name but I cant make out her middle name.
I also have the birth certificate of Rosetta Spencer, born 1913 to Ernest and Kezia Spencer in Werner Terrace, Charndon, and my mothers original birth certficate she is Margaret Rose Spencer born 25th April 1937 (sorry put wrong year in yesterdays post) She was also born in Werner Terrace, Charndon. which I found out is still there. But I cannot find anything further about my grandmother Rosetta.
So going back again I think we have the same results 1891 census Joseph Plant Head Sarah Plant wife Thomas Jesse Son (and witness at wedding) Frederick A Son Herbert E son Kezia E daughter Albert J son Florence J daughter (another witness) Edith R daughter Charles H son Edward J son
And then on the 1881 census appears the names of Arthur Plant 1871
I know I also put the wrong the year of birth for Kezia yesterday, sorry I was just so surprised to find your post, I had to respond immediately and did not have any info in front of me.
this is all so exciting
Love TeddyXXX
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teddybibbins
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Hi Mamakaz, Just had a really good look at the marriage certificate, and I think the middle name of Florence is Jemima. I do believe that My Great grandmother Kezia, and your Arthur were brother and sister. lol TeddyXXX
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mamakaz
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Morning teddy, x i think we are deffo related...
ive been researching Rosetta this morning and found this...(i dont think its the right Rosetta)
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Name: Rosetta Spencer Birth, 14 Jul 1915, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England Death, 12 Jun 1964, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England Spouse, Matthew Stanger Name, Matthew Stanger Birth, 23 Nov 1899, Bainton, Northamptonshire, England Death, 1974, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England Parents, Arthur Stanger, Rebbeca Burton Spouse, Rosetta Spencer
i have found lots more possibles for Rosetta, what is her exact birth date please? and does she have a middle name?
i would love to find out more about her,
cheers, kaz, x
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teddybibbins
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Morning Kaz, Your so dedicated I love you. I think the Rosetta you have found could be my grandmother. Her actual date of birth is 14th July 1913, although your research shows the date to be 1915, I think we both have seen date discrepancies during our searches, so she could be the one. She has no middle name. I will have a look at the website you have mentioned..
This is just so facinating, a few months ago we had no knowledge of my mothers real family, then her brother (adoptive family) died and his belongings were sent to her and there in the middle of some paperwork were her adoption papers, and here we are.. Mother is still very much alive and well, and was stunned when I informed her that I might have found a relative.
Mum always said her mum was in service at a local manor house, and that she became pregnant whilst there.
I have just looked at my mothers original birth certificate, and it states that Rosetta was living at 13, Werner Terrace, CALVERT, Charndon. and on Rosettas birth certificate she was born at 6 Werner Terrace, so thats where Ernest and Kezia lived. Cant find any other children for Ernest and Kezia either...so far
love Teddy (Sue)
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mamakaz
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hi yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,
ok, that has to be her, woo hoooooooooooooooooo
awww big hugs kisses, xxxx
so....
arthur and kezia were brother n sister,
arthurs daughter annie and kezias daughter rosetta were cousins,
annies son bruce aitken rosettas daughter Margaret 2nd cousins?
bruces daughter linda (my mum) and Margarets daughter (you) 3rd cousins?
then me! lol
ok, we need to find the Manor house Rosetta worked at, and i also found this...
ernests mum n dad...
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so his mum was kezia aswell!
ill see if i can find any more kids of Rosetta and Matthew Stanger, back soon, x
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ok, ive found 5 possible children of rosetta and matthew, ill send the info in pm as they are most likely still living, x
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Hiya,
just to add to your family tree as well
my daughter Victoria my son Daniel and you......................4th cousins
I'll have a look at Waddesdon Manor, Crickey! the Rothchilds. maybe they had a list of employees dated from 1937 ?
I'll keep searching.
mmmwah XXXX
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Just applied for marriage certificate of Rosetta Spencer and Matthew Stanger, Will then know if we are on right track.  teddyxxx
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mamakaz
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excellant  i would have done the same, with the birth date (not year, lol) matching,
well, fingers crossed, im excited too, its great when you get a lead to follow, im away for a while, kids are starving lol ill do some more searching tonight, kaz, x
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