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Bonnielripper
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PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« on: Thursday 07 May 09 06:34 UTC (UK) »
I'm looking for Thomas PIPER b1781 Sussex? m1812 Philadelphia SETMAN b1790 Sussex? Their son Henry Piper1815 Dallington (where is it?) m1840 Ann WATERS b1814 Sussex both died NSW Australia 1891 and 1873. Can anyone help me find these 3 people?  Henry and Ann emigrated to Australia ? Their children Henry bNSW 1853, Jane b1843, William b1845, Mary b1847, James b1849, John b1853, Stephen b1855,Charlotte b1851.
I am a descendant of Stephen.
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 May 09 07:35 UTC (UK) »
Hi Stephen

From the Sussex Marriage Index

27th Jan 1812,Dallington,East Sussex.

Thomas Piper & Philadelphia Sweatman.

Thomas was from Brightling,a Widower

Philadelphia,a Spinster from Dallington.

If you have a map, Dallington is west from Battle & Brightling is  just up
from Dallington.

Hope this helps

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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 May 09 13:28 UTC (UK) »
Hmm I've had a look at the SMI and I wonder if that widr is correct, I can't see any other marriages for Thomas unless it is Thomas Piper and Elizabeth Weller at Beckley in 1798.

Had a quick look at the baptisms database on the SFHG website and the only one that I could find was Thomas Piper baptised at Battle in 1763  Undecided

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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 May 09 17:20 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kerry

I have checked & double checked the marriage info for Thomas`s marriage.

I did spell Philadelphia`s surname wrong,it should have been Swetman.

But its definitely on the SMI i have.

Or have i lost the plot!!!!!!!!!

Think i`d better get out of bed a differant way tomorrow Smiley

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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 May 09 19:01 UTC (UK) »
I think the original needs a look if at all possible.  He could of course, married outside Sussex first time round.  I looked for a burial too and couldn't find one of those either.  Undecided

I have a marriage in Brightling where the husband is said to be a widr but again no first wife found or a burial.  Perhaps they lied!!!!

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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 May 09 19:12 UTC (UK) »
Kerry

I could write a BIG book about the lies OHs ancestors told,making out they married and did`nt,etc

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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 May 09 07:33 UTC (UK) »
Thanks all,
I havn't got Thomas PIPER birth cert yet, I need to verify it better. All I have is Thomas b1787 Sussex m1812c Philidelphia Setman (Swetman) b1790 Sussex. I have only found one child:- Henry b1815 Dallington m1840c Ann Waters b1814 Sussex. They immigrated to Australia not sure when yet, but they died 1891 and 1873.
Also Im looking into signing up for a subscription somewhere, can anyone tell me which site is great.? Ive been with Genes.
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 May 09 10:57 UTC (UK) »
Found two possibles (Second one looks the best)

Thomas Piper bap 13 Apr 1784 Mayfield Father: Thomas Mother: Mary

Another slightly later

Thomas Piper bap 25 Oct 1788 Salehurst Father: John Mother: Ann


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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »
Children (all baptised in Dallington)

Ann bap 6 Sep 1812
Stephen bap 7 Nov 1824
Sarah bap 27 Mar 1825 (Age 4)
Harriett bap 27 Mar 1825 (Age 3-4)
John bap 27 Mar 1825 (Age 7)
Henry bap 27 Mar 1825 (Age 10)
Charlotte bap 4 May 1828
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »
If the majority of your ancestors are in Sussex then the Sussex Family History Group are cheap to join and have a great database of baptisms and soon burials.

Sean
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 May 09 02:15 UTC (UK) »
Thankyou for the info on thomas Piper etc.  Im looking for his wife, Philadelphia Swetman/Setman b1790c Sussex. Unfortunately thats all I have on her.
    My ancestors are scattered all over Brittain from Lancashire Wigan to Cornwall and some in Scotland and then theres a line in Ireland. Ive been looking into the Genealogist subscriptions, but if anyone can tell me where value for money is, that would be great, as Ive found Genes Reunited are seriously lacking.
Thanks again
Sharon
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »
This IGI submitted entry might be worth exploring further - as there is a date there may be some truth in it!


Philodelphia Sweetnam born 27 DEC 1788   in Brightling parents Thomas Sweetnam and Lucy Venes

Jan Wink

There is an extracted entry for a marriage of Thomas Swetman to Lucy Venes on
23 SEP 1787 in  Brightling
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Re: PIPER Thomas b1781 Sussex?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 May 09 03:59 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for that tip, Im looking into it
Sharon
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