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GOODDOG
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:57 UTC (UK) »

 hi tomkin.

i have a fairly good  grasp of computers but i am definitely not  up to the standard of you people. i have no intentions of switching from my ie.

  it was reading you gentlemen saying about  ubuntu etc. which made me want to know what these systems were. two i am curious of . one is cclean, what is it.
  another is something nick mensioned was  some kind of spywear, it began with an a. nick said it only cost a few pounds. i pay just under £40.

by asking these questions i am learning from your replies. i think this is a wonderful site and enjoy reading the replies to different questions in all topics.

to all who have taken the time to reply to my questions  thank you very much.

thank you tomkin for mensioning the the local centers. i did that when i retired and enjoyed getting my diplomas. Smiley Smiley
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »


 Hi gooddog,

   Click on this link:-http://www.computeractive.co.uk/

   Type the word into the search facility and press go.

  You will then have more information than you will ever

   need. just click on the articles.

   Also look on the menu bar such as downloads. You will find more

   programmes than you will ever need etc.  Personally I always go

   for the "Freebies" Grin Grin Grin Grin

    Please always take great care with computer stuff. They can seriously

    damaged your pocket and your mental health. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

    Tomkin. Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 13:23 UTC (UK) »


 The link didn't seem to work, let's try again.

  see what I mean about damaging your mental health. Grin Grin

   Tomkin
 
            http://www.computeractive.co.uk/
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 13:27 UTC (UK) »


P.S.

    Also make good use of the Jargon Buster on the right.

  Just click on a letter for a list of all the computer jargon

   beginning with that letter and an explanation.

    Tomkin Grin Grin Grin

   All this for free.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Can't be bad..... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »

I have had little formal training using computers, and I expect it shows: As others have said, the big attraction about using a Linux system is that it's free, and that as the user base is smaller it attracts much less spam, viruses and other trash. But it does take a lot of learning. If you wanted to go for it from scratch, then the way might be to buy a net book computer running a Linux system and use it in tandem with the Windows system which came preinstalled on your present computer, then when you are comfortable with both system make a decision and switch to the one that suits you best.
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 19:31 UTC (UK) »

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it was reading you gentlemen saying about  ubuntu etc. which made me want to know what these systems were. two i am curious of . one is cclean, what is it.

Adaware from Lavasoft is a free utility for clearing away some minor spyware utilities and tracking cookies

http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php

CCleaner - is a utility for clearing away unwanted debris from your system and can help get rid of some malware

http://www.ccleaner.com/download

Another is Spybot S & D (search & destroy) all three are free to download and use and are useful tools in any armoury to protect your system - that said, misuse of them, like many programs, can screw up your system.

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

As regards security software there are many alternatives from free (AVG and Avast are 2 of the most popular Anti Virus programs) to the commercial alternatives. The commercial offerings generally combine several functions (Anti Virus and firewall) and it often pays to shop around to get the best deal on the same piece of software.
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

I have had little formal training using computers, and I expect it shows: As others have said, the big attraction about using a Linux system is that it's free, and that as the user base is smaller it attracts much less spam, viruses and other trash.

You keep saying that, and whilst it may have been true 5 years ago, it certainly isn't now.  In fact there are several virus checkers available for Linux.  Linux is widely installed on web servers - this forum is run on a Linux-based server.

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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 22:44 UTC (UK) »

The whole point about using Linux is that it cannot be infected.  You do not need anti-virus software or anti-spyware or any of the other stuff used by Windows to try and make it secure.

The main reason why Windows is so vulnerable is because users log on using a login with Admin privileges which allows malware to be downloaded and installed.  Most of this malware is written for a Windows OS, so if it is downloaded to Linux then it can't actually run on there.  Linux does have a free firewall called Shorewall available but it is such a secure system that it really doesn't need to have a firewall.

They important thing is not to connect to the Internet using an account that has Admin (or root) privileges.  That automatically protects you from malware being launched and thus infecting your system.
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 14 May 09 09:02 UTC (UK) »

The whole point about using Linux is that it cannot be infected.  You do not need anti-virus software or anti-spyware or any of the other stuff used by Windows to try and make it secure.

I really think that you ought to read up about the Linux Lupper Worm, the Linux Lion Worm, the Virus.Linux.Diesel.962 virus, the Virus.Linux.Vit.4096 virus, the Ramen virus and the Winux virus !   Roll Eyes  Although the last one has never been seen in the wild, it is proof that it's possible to write code that will infect both Windows and Linux systems.

They important thing is not to connect to the Internet using an account that has Admin (or root) privileges.  That automatically protects you from malware being launched and thus infecting your system.

Are you saying that if I sent you an email with a virus-infected or hostile attachment, that you would not be able to open it if you don't have Admin priviledges ?

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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 14 May 09 09:48 UTC (UK) »

I'm not remotely worried about picking up a virus using Linux and to be honest I have never met anyone who ever had their security compromised.

Many of these so-called threats to Linux seem to be theoretical:

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Considered a proof-of-concept virus, it has not been found in-the-wild. As such, it is not posing a threat to users

I've never heard of a Linux server being brought down by a virus.

If you try to open an attachment on a Linux system using something like Thunderbird and that attachment was an executable file, then you would need to be a superuser to run the file.

On a Windows system then it depends on the mail client.  Some will not let you open an attachment or will query it and say that it is a security risk.

The point about Admin privileges on a Windows system is what happens when you are browsing and the likely consequences of accidentally downloading and installing - something like a trojan, which is what happens to 100's of users every day.
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 14 May 09 09:59 UTC (UK) »

Many of these so-called threats to Linux seem to be theoretical:

Err, no - one of them was written to prove that it was possible to write code that would affect two different OS's, and I made that clear in my post.  All the other viruses I posted have been found in the wild, and many of them have been around for a long time (one of them since 2001).

Open-source applications can be both a blessing and a curse.  People who want to hack into Windows have to crack the code first, because Windows is not open-source.  Just recently two programmers writing open-source code for Firefox attachments fell out with each other, because one had admitted writing malicious code which would knock out features in his competitor's attachment.  This to my mind is the greatest security threat in Firefox.

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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 14 May 09 18:06 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your support Downside, Nick quotes 6 viruses by name, one of which "has never been seen in the wild". When I finished work over 13 years ago, there were already many thousands of viruses let loose on windows. I have also run Firefox browser, not it has to be admitted very often, but I( have never had a virus.
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 14 May 09 21:38 UTC (UK) »

How do you know you've never had a virus ?

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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #58 on: Friday 15 May 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

hi falkyrn

  i know i posted a reply to your letter re the  questions i asked, IE cclean etc. it was just to tell you that the spybot s&d say there is a problem. it seems that IE has an immunization feature of spybot s&d causes slow startup.

have just gone back to the webpage and it is IE8 which has the problem.

   michael
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Re: Internet Explorer 8
« Reply #59 on: Friday 15 May 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

If I had had a virus Nick, then surely it would have caused something to happen or fail when I was using the Ubuntu on my machine. If it didn't what point was there in writing it?
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