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Topic: Looking for a Charles Bullivant (Read 354 times)
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bradfordlad
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Well, I received the death certificates I ordered of 2 different Charles Bullivants.
One of them looks like a positive match
.....the Charles Bullivant who died 1847 in Liverpool. Trish, Deryck - looks like our suspicions may be justified.
The informant is listed as Jane Bullivant!
Charles is listed as 35 years old (died of Typhoid fever) putting his birth at 1812
Their address at the time was 67 Trowbridge Street, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool. The registry office was in Mount Pleasant also.
(John Lennon was married to Cynthia at the same registry office btw :-)
I found the house in the 1851. Alas, no Jane or Joseph living there. (Although I found that the current resident's occupation as 'comedian' was rather interesting).
Any help finding Jane or Joseph in 1851 would be greatly appreciated. I've tried all sort of combinations of Harrison, Pettler, Bullivant.
Charles' origin also remains a mystery. There are a handful of Charles' born around 1815, 1819, 1808 etc. No direct hit on 1812 though.
The one that intrigues me the most is Charles Bullivant born Saint Marylebone, London 1815. I'll check the 1841, 51 census to see where he may be at.
That's my update.
Thanks
Dave
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Bullivant Brewer Haley Wood Clemishaw Platts Blakebrough Conroy Jennings Hudson Shaw Stead
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Fantastic result with the death cert 
I have been unable to find Jane/Joesph 1851 
trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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trish1120
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Posts: 3474
My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Another stray Charles Bullivant born c. 1815; Although occp is not right may be of use to someone else 
1841 Census
Horsley, Derbyshire HO107/188/21/Horsley
In household of the Fletchers;
Charles Bullivant, 25, carpenter, not born in county
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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deryckjohn
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Another stray Bullivant in 1841?
Charles Bulleroint, 1816 Yorkshire in Stokesley, Yorkshire, transciption is close to the spelling. Findmypast have it as Bullervint. Age is right, but occupation is Engine Builder (I think).
Rest of the household:
Jemima Harrison 45
Ann Jobling 15
Ellen Hunt 15
William Smith 20
Christopher Pedlan 20
George Parker 20
Charles Bulleroint 25
William Lester 30
Joseph Hoginton 25
N K 30
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deryckjohn
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Have you applied for the 1856 marriage in Sheffield? Assumming it is your Jane it would hopefully allow you to sort out what her maiden name is.
Deryck
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mosiefish
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John Knowles 1896 to 1917
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Hi All,
I have been popping in to read all the updates on Charles and the lack of finding Jane and Joseph on the 1851 census.
This one keeps coming back to haunt me so I feel I should mention it.
HO107/2163 folio 143 page 30
Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire
Joseph Allmond aged 31 Iron Grinder, born gawd knows where, but it really looks like Lancashire Shefl??d to me. (Sheffield?)
Jane Allmond wife aged 33 born Yorkshire LEEDS
Joseph Allmond Son aged 6 born Lancashire PRESTON
plus a couple of lodgers.
I just can`t find the birth of a Joseph Allmond/Almond in Preston - there`s one in Blackburn but, I think he may have died in 1847. Neither can I find the above in a later census.
Do you think she may just have been living with him?
Regards,
Mo
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peake Devon: Walters |
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bradfordlad
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Okay, so here's an update from my findings on Charles Bullivant so far.
I have his death cert from Liverpool May 1847 - wife Jane
(he died of Typhoid fever during that year's epidemic casued by the massive influx of Irish escaping the potato famine). Charles' occupation at the time was File Grinder. Jane's maiden name is listed as 'late Harrison', which stumps me a little bit.
I have the details that Jane later re-married a Joseph Booker in 1856, Sheffield.
On the 1861 census, Jane is listed as being born in Leeds, appears with husband Joseph Booker, son-in-law (step-son) Joseph 'Bullingham' and son John Booker (from Joseph Booker's previous marriage to a Mary).
Charles and Jane were married in a simple ceremony (no family as witnesses) in Leeds, St. Peter's, 1836. Charles' occupation on the marriage certificate was File Maker. Jane's maiden name was listed as Pettler. The Pettler name was most prevalent in the Leeds area.
Charles was booked for stealing from his employer (Larceny by Servant) on or prior to 1845.
Charles' son - Joseph - was born in Preston, Lancs in spring 1845.
The address listed on Joseph's birth certificate is the Preston registrar's address - meaning Charles and Jane did not have a fixed abode or they had, hurriedly, just arrived in town. Which leads me to believe he skipped town from Yorkshire when he was due to go to court.
In Oct 1845, Charles court case appears in the Kingston Upon Hull Court record books. The verdict was 'No bill' and he was acquitted. However, unlike other 'No Bill' verdicts, his particular case is lined through with ink pen. This make me think no-one showed up for the case because the plaintiff knew the defendant skipped town. (Just a hunch). But it adds a lot of credance as to why Charles and Jane would have moved so far from Leeds to Preston and not have had a place to stay upon arrival. Leeds Liverpool canal anyone?
Finding Charles parentage has proved, thus far, difficult.
There were 5 similarly named individuals on the 1841 census that were of a similar age (born around 1812).
1 in St. Marylebone, Middlesex who is excluded because he appears on the 1851 and later censuses.
1 in Heanor Derby, who also appears on later censuses and was a carpenter
1 in Warwickshire with middle name Fletcher who also appears on later censuses and was a button maker.
and 1 in Stokesley, North Yorkshire listed as Bulleroint and an engine builder living with unrelated persons and no wife.
This last one could very possibly be my Charles unless the 1841 census is incomplete.
Stokesley is about 30-40 miles north of York. At the time there was a Jane Bullivant living nearer to York. Why they would be so far apart I do not know.
I guess my next steps would be to start checking all the parishes in the vicinity of York, Stokesley etc.
That's it for now.
Dave Bullivant
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