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gmauchan
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Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« on: Saturday 09 May 09 03:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I am trying to locate the death date for Elizabeth. She was born in Aberdeen in 1804, married a Clark Machan in 1826. He disappears from the records between 1841 and 1851 (was cotton mill worker in Lanarkshire). She appears in Cathcart as a grocer in 1851 and in 1861 in Rutherglen and then in 1871 in Row. I have not found a census for her in 1881. I haave not been able to find an SP record for her death. She was born Elizabeth Altera or Altrea her father was a glassblower in Aberdeen
Any ideas?
Gillian
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 May 09 10:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I found this one, but age is wrong  Undecided

   1898   MAUCHAN   ELIZABETH       ALTRIA   F   41   ROW OR RHU   /DUNBARTON   503/00 011
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:05 UTC (UK) »

I found this Elizabeth in 1881 census

   
Census Place:   Row, Dumbarton, Scotland
Address   19 Lomond St


Elizabeth MARCHUN age 74, widow born Aberdeen,  housekeeper
Bessie MACHUN (MARCHUN) age 32, daughter, born Pollockshaws,
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »

I think this is Elizabeth in 1891 census, very badly mis-transcribed by Ancestry

Parish:     Row
County:    Dumbartonshire
Address:    Rowmore Stableyd

Elizabeth Maryhar age 83 born Aberdeen
Robert Maryhar age 54, son, born Lanark
Bessie Maryhar age 42, daughter, born Renfrew
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:50 UTC (UK) »

Bessie and Robert in 1901 census

Parish:     Row
County:    Dumbartonshire
Address:    Rowmoro Stables

Robert Maughan age 60 born Lanark
Bessie Maughan age 48, sister born Pollokshaws
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Capricorn

I wonder if the death entry you found on SP for 1898 has had the age mis transcribed. If it was 91 rather than 41.... Roll Eyes The combination of those surnames is not common and the place is right.

Gillian, might be worth looking at the image given there is no other possible entry coming up for Elizabeth. Given that Capricorn has found Elizabeth alive up 1891 at Row certainly makes it look a strong possibility.

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 May 09 16:50 UTC (UK) »

You're right Monica  Smiley  I couldn't resist a peek

Elizabeth Mauchan, widow of Clark Mauchlan, Quill dresser.
age 91 died 7th October 1898, Rowmore House, Row.
Father Caeser Altria, glass blower, dec.
Mother.................Altria, maiden surname----------------dec.
Signed Andrew Mauchan, son

Birth on IGI

ELIZABETH ALTERA     
Christening:     
24 JUL 1804      Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father.......CAESAR ALTERA    
Mother.......   ELSPET MILNE
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 May 09 17:59 UTC (UK) »

That's a good result Capricorn - well done you  Smiley

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 May 09 18:10 UTC (UK) »

Caesar Altria's work at the Marischal Virtual Museum, Aberdeen Univerity http://shrunklink.com/cjsx

I had to search that name to see what came up! Although not sure if this was Caesar Snr. or Junior.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 May 09 03:55 UTC (UK) »

 Grin All
Thanks so much that is indeed good - I had looked at SP and seen the index but was too mean to purhase a peek! Will spend the $ now and down load it! The census takers have indeed had a lot of 'fun' with the surname it starts out as Machan, in 1841 it's transcribed as Machon, then Mauchin in 1851, Mauchan in 61, and 71, Marchan in 81 and Maryhar in 1891 - I might try those combinations to find my Greatgrandfather's census record in 1901(her grandson Andrew who should be with his mother Annie widow of Elizabeth's son John)
Thanks for all the fantastic help

Gillian
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Re: Elizabeth Mauchan/Machan MI
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 May 09 04:39 UTC (UK) »

The link to Glassblowing may well Be Caeser's son Caeser who was born in 1800, he and his brother Forbes took over the family trade. Elizabeth's father woul have been in his 90's in 1860's and he doesn't appear in Census records after 1841 where he is 70.

Cheesy

Gillian

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