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shaneooo
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Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« on: Saturday 09 May 09 12:44 UTC (UK) »

hi,
Im looking for any information for stephen baker b elham/hythe abt 1861 and wife phoebe rossiter b canterbury 1863 between 1881 and 1891.
they both seem to of dropped of the radar.
the married in elham 1889 2a 1561.
my budget is blown for this month so the marriage cert will have to wait but i have no information on phoebe's parents.
they are shown as living in a caravan in jubilee st sittingbourne in 1901.
any help wil be appreciated.thanks. shane.
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Baker, kent
Goldsmith, kent
Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham
bearkat
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »

This looks like the baptism you are looking for

BAKER Stephen son of  John & Mercy 22 Oct 1861 at Hythe.

from

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gypsy/gypsy.htm

a great site for tracing Kent travellers.  Cheesy

but I can't see Phoebe.  Sad
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:14 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Bearkat, not seen this site before, found some goldsmith family on here to.
Cheers, shane.
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nelwild
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 May 09 10:48 UTC (UK) »

hello shane,your thread here has solved my phoebe harris problem on the general board.i was trying to find a phoebe harris who married a stephen baker in canterbury in 1885.but from your info i see that my stephen bakers wife was phoebe rossiter,many thanks for that.also,i dont know if this is significant,but i have the marriage certificate(27/07/1904 canterbury)  of elizabeth baker born 1877 canterbury and mark goldup,general dealer,born 1867 stelling minnis.elizabeths father was a stephen baker,on the 1871/81 as general dealer/broom maker,he married a hawker names isabela holness..marks father,also mark,born 1831,waltham,general dealer,married louisa baker born 1841,barham,general/timber dealer/bobbing maker etc,she was the daughter of james baker born 1801,wood dealer and margaret Huh born 1803,sutton,hawker.this isnt the other stephen,but could be related,nel.
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nel, ive just ordered their marrige certificate today so will have more info in about a week, hopefully with phoebe's parents details on.
shane.
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Pennell, thanet, Faversham
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

shane,id be very intrested in her parents,youll probably only get her father off the marriage cert,but that might get you a bit further,hopefully hear from you when it turns up,if not before,nel.
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:59 UTC (UK) »

No luck with marriage cert, under fathers details says illigitimate, but asys she was born in folkstone. no age and proffesion is Traveller.
Bit of a dead end but nice to have the certificate.

shane.
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Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 May 09 08:20 UTC (UK) »

Who were the marriage witnesses Shane - they could be a clue?

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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 May 09 09:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Casalguidi, looks like Frances cowell and Thiriam? sister charity.
thanks, shane.
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Baker, kent
Goldsmith, kent
Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham
nelwild
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 17 May 09 13:50 UTC (UK) »

shane,i presume you have stephens sister ruth married to thomas rossiter,nel.
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 17 May 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nel, yes thanks, ive found a mercy pheobe rossiter b 1864 canterbury, do you know if theres a baptisms online for this district ?. Cant find any link to ruths hubbys family. It maybe her mothers maiden name as she is shown as illegitimate on marriage cert.
thanks.
shane.
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Baker, kent
Goldsmith, kent
Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham
nelwild
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 17 May 09 16:15 UTC (UK) »

sorry shane,i dont know if that areas baptisms are available online.there is a researcher on here called bettyofkent who seems to have access to some canterbury baptisms,im wondering if she might see this or perhaps pm her.i didnt realise that phoebe was known as mercy phoebe,ive only tried phoebe in searches and found nothing.i think with two baker sibs marrying rossiters they will be connected as most kent rossiters are,its finding the link thats the challenge.incidentally,i dont know if youve seen the bbcromanyroots board today,theres an intresting posting on rossiters,a lady has traced them back to spain,coming here on the armarda,and originally they were rositas.this intrested me as my spains are meant to be from spain,also coming ashore at the time of the armarda,nel. 
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 17 May 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nel,
Not sure if mercy phoebe is the same one but its all i could find, i cant find mercy p rossiter on census either.
shane.
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Baker, kent
Goldsmith, kent
Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham
nelwild
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:17 UTC (UK) »

shane,have you seen this entry i found whilst looking for phoebes born c1864 canterbury.living in a caravan in charlton near dover is george reid born 1852,maidstone,betsey Huh born 1852,sittingbourne,eliza born 1873,canterbury,george born 1878,sittingbourne,mary ann born 1880,maidstone and phobe e born 1864,canterbury,sister.im wondering if betsey might be a rossiter,coming from sittingbourne,and that phoebe might be her sister.i couldnt find a reid/rossiter marriage.it could be nothing,maybe some of the other better researchers than me can have a look,nel.
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shaneooo
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Re: Stephen Baker/Phoebe Rossiter 1881/1891
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 May 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »

Cheers Nel, im just having a looksee.
shane.
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