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Topic: Help please - emigration to America/Canada c. 1853 (Read 344 times)
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mortieau
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Hi Jill,
The trouble with locating your George Bishop in the USA at least, is that usually any listing would give his place of origin as just England, and as George Bishop seems to be a fairly common name it's hard to pin down which is yours.
The best bet is the 1860 census, were there are 3 George Bishops born in England, ages 39,40 & 45. Unfortunately the best way to see the full details of each is on Ancestry.com.
Another site is CastleGarden.org which lists passengers arriving in New York
http://www.castlegarden.org/searcher.php
The only George Bishops here though landed 1848, 1850 & 1860 so don't realy fit your details.
But again Ancestry has a lot of other passenger lists for other ports in the US & Canada.
Good hunting
John
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jorose
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Do you know anything else about him - occupation, for example could help pin down which is him. Could he have gone under another name? (mother's maiden name, for example?)
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/
shows two George Bishops in 1870 (freely available) b. England around the right time.
The one about b. 1817, though, has a son who was b. in MA about 1849 (living in MA)
The other, b. abt 1820, living in NY, had a son b. in England, about 1862.
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ArchivesSearch/Passengermanifest.aspx
- Boston arrival records, don't see him as George Bishop.
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jillruss
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Posts: 2917
Gt Gt Grandfather Shepherd from Aberdeen 1827-1910
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Thanks for your replies.
I can't seem to get into the LDS Pilot site. Everytime I try, I get a message telling me that
"You are trying to install Adobe Flash Player on an unsupported operating system."
Then it gives 2 links: one to Flash Player System Requirements, the other to Flash Player Download Centre. Neither work!! I click on them and nothing happens!! Pity, as I would love to be able to access this site.
I'm assuming it's because I'm still operating on Windows Millenium. I had the same problem trying to find a new printer which would operate on Millenium.
Fortunately, John (Mortieau) has looked at the 1860 census for me, there are 3 possibles but none are conclusive.
Jorose, I'm afraid my George Bishop was a mere labourer. His mother's maiden name was Bishop - he was illegitimate. The newspaper extract which got me onto this in the first place stated that George was known locally as the 'Bishop of Keyingham' as he was a self styled lay preacher of the Primitive Methodist church (didn't stop him leaving his wife and children though!).
I now know, from a Bastardy document, that his father was called George Steeple but I'm not sure that my George even knew that. Wouldn't he have had to use his own name when applying for a passport? Or am I being naive? 
I looked on Find My Past and found a passport application for a George Bishop dated Jun 23 1851 but there's one for a George jun 2 days previous so I think that's probably a family. In true Find My Past style - that's all you get, so no help really.
Thanks for the Boston arrivals link - but, no, I couldn't see him either.
George has been a constant thorn in my side ever since I started FH about 5 years ago. For most of that time, I've been searching for a death record for him in England as he just disappears off the radar about 1852. Now I know why, but I still can't find the blighter! 
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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jorose
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Posts: 4638
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What was the exact date of the newspaper extract and how do they word it? It wouldn't have been unusual for the husband to emigrate first, with the intent of finding work and accomodation, and then sending money back for tickets for the rest of the family. It's also not terribly unusual to find cases where contact was lost and the family didn't know where he had gone-- accidentally or on purpose, hard to tell (unless you find him with a new wife in the US, in which case it's probably "on purpose").
At that time, he would not require a passport to travel. Early passports are rare (National Archives says "normally confined to merchants and diplomats"), and your basic emigrant wouldn't have had one.
I wonder if the Primitive Methodist records might have any useful information in them?
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