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Millbrook station Hotel
« on: Sunday 10 May 09 14:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Does anyone know anything about Millbrook Station Hotel, (think it says Manston Beds)my G G Grandfather and his family were down as living here, on his sons wedding certificate he is down as being a publican, am looking for any info, i've tried looking it up on a place search but...nothing

Can anyone help

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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 May 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »

don't know if this will help but Millbrook station was originally called manston station

What timescale are we looking at???

Suz
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 May 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Suz

I have army records for my g grandad he joined in 1898 and left in 1919 on these records his mam dad and brothers are down as living here

Thanks for your reply
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 May 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

What were their names?
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            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 09 16:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bedfordshire boy,

They were called William Smith, Mary (wife) son, William, and i think it says Charles and Frederick, do you think you may be able to help?

Thanks

Posty
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 09 17:42 UTC (UK) »

Hello Posty,  This article says the pub opposite the station was 'The Morteyne Arms' . The station is on the Bedford - Bletchley line & it is situated midway between (on the road that links) Marston Moretaine & Milbrook. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millbrook_(Bedfordshire)_railway_station

from the 1901 census at 'The Morteyne Arms' in Marston Moretaine is

William S Smith, Head age 50 born Nottinghamshire ; Publican
Mary F Smith, wife, age 40 born Moulton, Northants
Francis Smith, son, age 16 ; born London ; general labourer
Isaac Smith, son age 14 ; born Malta; publican's son
Harry Smith, son age 11 born Malta
Arthur Smith, son age 7 born Malta
Frederic Smith, son age 5 born Malta
Percy Smith, son, age 2 born Marston, Beds

Is this your family ?

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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 09 19:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi John

Thanks for your reply, but my William's middle name was Thomas, on the records that i have it states Millbrook Station Hotel, but underneath a name is crossed out, maybe it says Morteyne Arms.  Hope the photo comes out ok for you to take a look.

Hve tried getting old photo's of the building but can't seem to find any, but thanks again for the info.

Posty

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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 May 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

hello Posty,  nope, your photo did not display - I got a box that said 'invalid type;

Have you tracked your William Smith though the census ?
If not & you would like that info then please let us know his year & place of birth, if you know it.

I take it that William Smith, the publican at Millbrook/Marston is your gt-gt-grandfather.  Also is his son, your gt-grandad, the one who went off to WW1,  also named William.
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 May 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi John

I don't know where William was born or what year, yes he was my G G Grandfather, his son George John was my G Grandfather, it says on his army records that he was born in Dublin in 1881 his wife was called Ethel (Goodison) I didn't mention George John as he was in the army, just the rest of his family named on the army records as living at the said Hotel.  Will keep trying with the photo, but keeps saying file too big.

Thanks

Posty


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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 May 09 20:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi again John

William and Mary had William, George, Charles and Frederick, George being my G grandad.  Jope this has cleared any confusion i may have caused lol

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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 May 09 20:45 UTC (UK) »

William's middle initial could be one of many letters, with T being one of them.

I think the scrubbed out name could easily be Moreteyne Arms, Marston (not Manston) Beds

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 07:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks David

I have George John Smiths wedding certificate and it states his fathers full name as being William Thomas, think i'll start to look for old photo's of the Morteyne Arms, see if that throws something back at me.

Thanks again

Posty Smiley
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

hello posty,   ... that military record detail - what date was that ?

also what was George John's year of birth & where might he be in 1901 & 1911

When was the marriage ? on that certificate- does it give his father's address as the Station Hotel ? or if not, where ?

it is just a coincidence that a William Smith & wife Mary is publican at The Moreteyne Arms in 1901 - sure that's not your family - any links to Malta ?


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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 21:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi John

The date on that particular record is between 1899 and 1904, George Johns year of birth was 1881, in 1901 he was in South Africa, (26.09,99-12.02.04) he married Ethel Goodison in 1906 and says his residence was 4Durham terrace, hodgson st, Hull, but says his father is deceased and his profession was a publican in 1911 they're at 5 wawne terrace. Hodgson st. Hull. No links with Malta as far as i know.

Too much of a coincidence though don't you think, maybe they just stayed there??  I'd never make a detective  Cheesy

Regards

Posty
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Re: Millbrook station Hotel
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 06:16 UTC (UK) »

From FreeBMD,
... there is a death index of William Thomas Smith age 54 in Jul-Sept 1904 in Ampthill RD vol 3b page 209.

Could this be him - it ties in with him being deceased at his son's marriage of 1906. Do you have the death certificate ?

regards John

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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
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