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smiley56
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I am looking for Information regarding Elizabeth Wellington 1791-1850 married to William Wellington born Dawlish around 1790.Parents names and siblings would be most helpful. Thanks Erika.
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deb usa
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Hi Erika
Dawlish is in Devon 
in 1841
Dawlish, Mill Row
Elizabeth Wellington 50
Mary 20
Henry 15
James 14
George 12
all born in county
from IGI
MARY ANN WILLINGTON d.o William and Elizabeth
11 NOV 1819 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
HENRY WELLINGTON s.o William and Elizabeth
28 MAY 1822 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
JAMES WELLINGTON s.o ditto
30 MAR 1826 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
GEORGE WELLINGTON s.o ditto
20 NOV 1831 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
possible children not on 1841 census;
JANE WELLINGTON 12 SEP 1830 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
SAMUEL WELLINGTON 28 MAY 1822 St Gregory'S, Dawlish (possible twin of Henry?)
SAMUEL WELLINGTON 28 DEC 1823 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
I note that in 1841 there is an Ann (25, dress maker) and Charlotte (4) Windcott...surname is hard to make out....sharing the Wellington home
In 1851 Ann M (39, dressmaker, widow) and Charlotte (14) are still living next door to Henry Wellington (1822) and family at Mill Row. I wonder ikf she is related to Elizabeth (1791).
Cannot find Thomas Wellington's marriage to Elizabeth yet....so cannot find her sibs or parents.
will keep looking
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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smiley56
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Hi Deb,
Very exciting to get your post today and many thanks for your efforts.I seem to have trouble with families once their birth date is prior to 1800 for some reason.Will eagerly look over the information you have supplied and add it to my slowly growing family tree.Once again thanks for your reply.I am most grateful for the information.Amazingly we travelled to this area from Australia last year for a holiday. Hadn't started with the genealogy at that stage unfortunately.Seems reason for another trip don't you think?LOL Cheers for now.Erika.
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deb usa
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Hi Erika
I have been looking for more clues as to Elizabeth's maiden name ...no luck yet!
In 1841 I have found a William Wellington born 1790 living in the household of a Margaret Schunk? 80, Independent, b Ireland along with these people;
Charlotte Grant 58 independent not born in county
Mary Peters 64 Born in county
Mary Leworthy?Lescorthy? 59 ditto
They are all at Barton House, Church Street, Dawlish
I wonder if this is Elizabeth's husband and he was away from home on the night of the census.
In 1851 I can find Henry (1822) and his sister Mary Ann (1820) but am still looking for the other children
1851
19 Brooks street
Dawlish
Mary Ann Wellington unm head 30 laundress b Daslish
William Wellington nephew 8 b ditto
1851
13 Mill Row
Dawlish
Henry Wellington head mar 28 tailor b Dawlish
Mary Ann wife, 26 b ditto
Jane dau 6 b ditto
Thomas son 4 b ditto
James son 2 b ditto
Elizabeth dau 4 months
Henry married Mary Ann Edds
In 1861 I am not sure where Henry is, but it seems that his wife and some of their children are living next door to her parents
1861
Dawlish
12 Brunswick place
Mary Ann Wellington head mar 37 dressmaker
James son 12 donkey driver
Elizabeth dau 10
Henry son 8
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11 Brunswick place
Thomas EDDS head mar 55 boatman b Dawlish
Elizabeth wife 62 b Bishop Tawton
Maria dau unm 35 seamstress b Dawlish
Thomas Edds son 10 b Bishop Tawton .... maybe maria's son?
In 1841 the Edds family are also living in Mill Place 
Thomas Edds 35 fisherman
Elizabeth 45
MARY 15
Elizabeth 11
Rosamond 5
Maria is 'up the road' working in the household of a Jane Jackson, next door is a Thomas (fisherman) and Ann Edds both 60.
Just realised I have gone off on a tangent  wiil look further ...there has to be a clue somewhere as to Elizabeth's (1791) maiden name.
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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Hi again Erika
Have just read your post/thread on the Scottish board.... and it seems that you come from Henry Wellington (1822) and Mary Ann Edds (1824) line!
I have found this submitted entry on IGI
Mary Ann WEBBER EDDS
d/o Thomas EDDS and Elizabeth WEBBER
4 JUN 1824 Dawlish, Devon
died; 8 APR 1903
Maria EDDS d/o Thomas Edds and Betsey
chr, 16 APR 1826 St Gregory'S, Dawlish
all the children are on IGI , all submitted entries, as well as this marriage;
Thomas Edds = Elizabeth Webber
3 JUN 1823 Dawlish, Devon
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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hi again
Have been following the Wellingtons.
George b 1831 gets married to a Ellen/Hellen ...need to find marriage.
from National Archives ...
Online Document ADM 188/39
Name Wellington George 60820 Dawlish, Devon . Date: 1831.
DOB: 3 November 1831
(from my other post ...he was christened; 20 NOV 1831 )
also
Online Document ADM 139/110
Name Wellington James Dawlish, Devon 10999
Volunteered on; 01 April 1854 .
DOB: 29 March 1826
(christened; 30 MAR 1826 )
more for James;
Admiralty: Royal Navy, Royal Marines, Coastguard and related services: Officers'... age on entry: [Not Given]; Dates served: [Not Given]; Date and Type of Application: Whitehall 6 April 1866 and other. See also ADM 139/240 CS 23910 , Dawlish, Devon; AJames WELLINGTON; Rating; Born: 29 March 1826 Date: 1866.
I wonder if these records may give Next of kin names ....?
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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smiley56
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Hi Deb,
Wow you must have been working overtime!! Haven't been getting my updates via email so had this wealth of info to read when I came in.Fascinating to see all that you have uncovered and once again sincere thanks for you assistance.I had seen the royal navy reference but at that stage we had been looking further down the line at Henry Wellington and his son Jame's royal artillery records.I didn't think there would be digression from one form of service a family had followed and therefore dismissed the navy connection.I am rather confused about something I come across each time with my searches.I do know from the data I have got that Mary Ann Edd's/Wellington daughter of Elizabeth Webber and Thomas Edd's died in Dunbar in 1903.This death was evidently registered by Martha Pagan/Wellington my grandmother Daisy's sister.In family Search IGI records they have Mary Ann dying in Utah. I have come across this before with Ancestry.com and they have her linked in with the same parents with the Dawlish reference but many Utah locations and family members?Further searches for family details always lead me back to the American references which is why I have been finding it all a bit difficult to get a handle on!!I will relish sorting through the details you have come up with so once again thanks for your input Deb.Cheers Erika.
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deb usa
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Hi Erika
So glad that you are on;ine at the same time as I am ... almost 7pm Friday here
Submitted entries on IGI can be confusing as I have come across one that states that your Mary Ann Edds (Wellington) married a Cooper in 1852 ... I cannot find that marriage at all.
I am fairly certain that we can follow some of her and Henry's children through the censuses. I will see what I can find ..I am fairly certain that your Mary Ann did not die in Utah. ...I have not seen a passenger list for any of your Wellingtons to the USA yet!
I will transcribe all that I find.
Maybe ordering the admiralty docs online from the National Archives would give you peace of mind that they are your Henry's brothers. George stayed in England. I have not been able to find James after 1841 yet ........... 
be back soon
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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hi again
When did Henry (1822, father of James) die?
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
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deb usa
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okay ...
1871
7 Church Street, Islington, London
Mary Wellington head widow 45 dressmaker b Dawlish
Is this Henry's wife?
1871 ...Henry's sister
Tormorham
9 Wellawood? Park
Mary Anne Wellington, servant, unm , 50 Cook, b Dawlish
in the home of Margaret ??arington.
1871...George's wife, George= Brother of Henry b 1822
Dawlish
16 Chapel Street
Ellen M Wellington head mar 40 dressmaker b Dawlish
Ellen M dau 16 housekeeper for her mother b Teignmouth
Emma S dau 14 b Dawlish
George W son 12 b ditto
1871
George Wellington, caulker, mar, 49, b Dawlish
on board the vessel "Indus (1)", Tamar, Stoke Damerel
(In 1861 ... George was a caulker, 30, married on board the "James Watt", he was at sea! His wife Helen is 30 , dressmaker living in Brook Street, Dalish with Helen 6, Emma 3 and George 1.)
more to come
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deb usa
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now for 1881
I can see a Mary Ann Wellington in Dawlish bc 1819, former laundress ....she is born Devon U K (UNknown) ...not sure if this is Henry's sis (bc1820).
the also in 1881 I find;
London
Mary A Wellington widow 55 dressmaker b Dawlish
Elizabeth dau 30 unm dressmaker (fits with dau Elizabeth 4months in 1851 census)
Frederick son 17 wine ?? b London ........... 
so who is Frederick? In 1871 I find a Frederick Wellington who is the step son of John Baker 25 from suffolk who wife is Jane aged 26, who is born in DAWLISH! So who is Jane? arrghhhhhhhhhh will come back to this sometime LOL I want to find Mary Ann Edds Wellington all the way through.
okay ....to 1891
Dawlish
2 Brooks street
George Wellington head mar 59 painter
Helen M wife 60 dressmaker
Maryan sister single 72 laundress
Emma grandchild 10
all born Dawlish
also in 1891 in Islington, London I find a Mar?a (maybe Mary A) Wellington head widow 67/69? dress maker b Dawlish with her granddaughter Bertha, 13 b Ireland.
This is, I am sure, Mary Ann Edds Wellington! I wonder why she moved from Devon to London as she is there from at least the 1871 census.?
going on the fact that Mary Ann Edds Wellington did not die until 1903 , I cannot find her in 1901 in London or anywhere in England ...the only Wellingtons b Dawlish in 1901 are :
George Wellington boarder, widower 68 naval pensioner b Dalish living at the Railway Inn Dawlish.
In Bristol we find George Wellington , wid 44, joiner carpenter, b Dawlish, with dau Helen 14 (Exeter) and Reginald 12 (b exeter) ...this must be the son of George who was the brother of Henry (1822) who married Mary Ann Edds LOL
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
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deb usa
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folloing through on Mary Ann Edds Wellington b c 1824, who is not in England in 1901 we find her in SCOTLAND!
Mary Ann Wellington, 76, head, b England, Dressmaker , Dumfriesshire, 38 English Street
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Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
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deb usa
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hi again
Going back to your Scottish Thread and Hume's reply re; Mary Ann Edds Wellington's death...
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"Details of Mary Ann Edds' death certificate:
Mary Ann Wellington, 76, widow of Henry Wellington, tailor
d. July 21st 1902 at Dumfries Infirmary (usual residence: 35 English Street, Dumfries)
parents - Thomas Edds, pleasure boat owner (deceased) and Elizabeth Edds, m.s. ----- (also deceased)
registered by granddaughter Bertha Pagan, of 34 Elmbank Street, Newton-on-Ayr"
You mentioned Martha registered her death .... LOL ...maybe Bertha? ... She must be the Bertha who was with her (MA Edds Wellington) in London in 1891.
So ............... Mary Ann died in Scotland NOT Utah!
deb
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smiley56
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Hi Deb,
Amazing to see the pace you work at.LOL You have given me so much to digest I have printed it off and will go through it bit by bit!!Just a couple of things you asked. The only death date I could come up with for Henry Wellington was Islington but this has his birth date abt 1857?I found his birth in Newton Abbott 1852 o/n/d.Frederick born 1864 son of Mary and Henry Wellington.The only Jane I've so far got is their first daughter born 1845.But this doesn't seem to fit!!!GRRR Think I just need a few days to try and put all the info into perspective.I am not too quick on the uptake if you get my drift!! Need to see it all collated and in front of me.Once again thanks for your hard work I can't believe how you have sourced so much info. Much appreciated.Thanks for sorting the american link because that was really confusing me big time especially when all the parents were the same as well as their birth dates and localities.
Cheers. Erika
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deb usa
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Hi Erika
Glad you are back .... ummm need to sort out Frederick. LOL
I wonder what happened to all Henry's (1822) siblings? so far we can only find George, Mary Ann and James (1841, and Naval records) ... maybe Jane and Samuel died ? ( see my first post).
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
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