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Ruskie
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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We are looking for living relatives of the following soldier. There is also a need to combine the family tree to do DNA testing if it proves viable. There is loads of info about him, so we hope to be able to trace family. Grateful for any help.
NAME Smith, James Robert
SN 3983
RANK Private
UNIT 31 Bn
HONOUR Standard entitlements
BORN Allora Qld 29.03.1893
OCCUPATION Labourer
RELIGION Anglican
DOE 12.12.1915
AGE 23
STATUS KIA
DATE 20.07.1916
AGE 24
BURIED Unknown
MEMORIAL VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 4
AWM 119
DESCRIPTION 5 foot 6 1/2 auburn hair
NOTES ID disk returned by German authorities
Parents separated ?
NOK Father: James Smith
Percy Street Warwick
Mother: Harriet Smith (nee Flint?)
East Talgai Dalrymple Darling Downs Qld
Sister: Elizabeth Smith died 26.10.1892
Cousin (?): John David Smith served AIF 2170 Private 31 Bn RTA
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Just Moi
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Bit More,
My forebears include a Mr and Mrs John and Mary Smith arriving in NSW from UK to NZ separately, meeting there in abt 1881 as adults and then to NSW by 1883. I have checked my own records, but cannot see a definite link. I have contacted other family members and we all know how difficult it is to search of John Smith. We are aware of several late 19th Century families with surname SMITH in Darling Downs who were associated with a) droving, (from Bourke to Winton via Charleville mostly) b) shearers - many locations and c) butchers, perhaps as far as Charters Towers. BUT cannot find Harriet (James Robert Smith's Mum) or surname Flint (her nee name?) in any of our records.
The John (Ellington) Smith that my profile notes, well he seems to have had a brother JAMES - but not sure of this. The family were from Cambridgeshire - probably Ely, perhaps sons of John and Lucy, and I have census information if the Fromelles missing lad, James Robert Smith, may be nephew of John (Ellington) Smith, ie John (Ellington) Smith - perhaps who was brother of JAMES. But, I caution, finding which James SMITH is not an easy task.
JM
The search continues.
JM
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Just Moi
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Bit More,
The following index entry on Qld bdm perhaps may help, although different middle forename.
1922/F8129 Smith Henry Francis (son of) James Smith (and) Harriet (nee) Flint ** late Sergeant
JM (noting the "F" in the reference number indicates this death certificate was issued for the AIF who Fell, volunteers who enlisted in Qld.
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deeiluka
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Don't know how far we'll get with this one, but I have found the birth of James Robert Smith and his siblings......
James Smith and Harriett Flint had the following children in Queensland.....
1891 Elizabeth Smith
Ref = C3052
1893 James Robert Smith
Ref = C2522
1895 Annie Smith
Ref = C2804
1894 Harriett Parthenia Smith
Ref = C2610
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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Harriett Flint and James Smith don't appear to have married in Queensland.
However, their daughter Harriet Parthenia Smith married Cyril Frederick Kohler in 1916.
Ref = C1856
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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Harriet Parthenia KOHLER is buried at Goondiwindi Cemetery. She died aged 69 on the 7th February 1964.
http://www.ozcemeteries.com/qld_cemeteries/goondiwindi_gm.htm
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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PM sent to Tim with a possibility that may be able to be checked out. 
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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Any developments on this one, Tim?
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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