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Topic: MAJOR, William - Lookup Request (Read 549 times)
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Chezney
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Hello all,
I am trying to find the marriage certificate of my Great, Great Grandfather 'William Major' born I think in Newnham, Northamptonshire roughly in 1864 (not for certain).
He later moved to Curragh Camp, Kildare, Ireland. His wife was Mary Winefred O'Neill and I suspect they were married around 1884 (I have found them on the 1911 census and it says 'number of years married' = 27) I have looked on the Kildare Genealogy website and can't find the marriage there.
Whilst in Kildare they had 'William Henry Major' (eldest son) born Dec 1884. This reinforses to me that they were probably married in 1884.
I am really struggling to find where they were married, whether it was in the UK or Ireland.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Francesca.
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hepburn
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I'm wondering if this is William in the 1861 census for Newnham Northants.
William Major head age 44 mason
Elizabeth wife age 46
Sarah Ann dau' age 6
William son age 3
Julius? Cornell? step son age 11
John Major lodger age 17.
RG9/942/83/page 12..
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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hepburn
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There dosen't look like there's a marriage for them on FreeBMD....
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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Chezney
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I cannot find their marriage on free BMD either. Are all records on there or are there some missing? Could there be a very small chance that his is missing?
Thank you so much for helping me everyone, this is helping me get things straight!
I think you've pretty much confirmed what I had been suspecting; that I may have been tracing the wrong 'William Major' as I do not know for sure what year he was born or where. He doesn't appear to have a middle name - doesn't help!
I was tracing the William Major living with William Osbourne, if he later married a lady called Rose - I think he's the wrong one!
Ok, try again! The only reason I think he could be from Northamptonshire is due to the following census records;
1891 Census William is aged 27 born in 'Northampton, Northamptonshire' and a butcher.
1901 Census William is aged 42?! born in 'Northampton, Northamptonshire' and a butcher.
Very confusing!!! Both are living with 'Ellen' and the same children.
So he could have been born in either 1859 or 1884?! I don't know what his Father or Mother were called. But I do know that William was a butcher (so that's why I assume the above is him).
I'm baffeled, can anyone make any sense of this?!
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Chezney
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I have just checked the 1911 Census record for William Major again, and under 'place of birth' it says 'Northamptonshire, Daventry. Which I understand is Newnham.
In 1911 it states that he is 51, so he could have been born in 1860. On freeBMD there are two which I think he could be either one of;
DEC 1959 - MAJOR William, Daventry 3b 59
Or;
Mar 1860 - Major William Allen, Daventry 3b 112
I'm leaning towards the first one, as I cannot see that my Great, Great Grandfather had a middle name.
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Chezney
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Just realised above I put 'DEC 1959' - I meant 1859.
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hepburn
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William age 3 in 1861 seems to go missing after that......William born 1864,you can follow him through the censuses..
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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Chezney
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Yes, however as Pennie said above William born 1864 marries a lady called Rose.
My relation married a lady called Ellen Brennan.
I do wonder if he slips off the census radar because he moved to Ireland to the Curragh Camp in Kildare. He had my Great Grandfather in 1884 so he may have been there for the 1881 census.
I have ordered his son's marriage certificate, so hopefully this will have William's full name on it and any other details which may help me identify him.
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seahall
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Remembering those care free days of childhood
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HI All
From the N.M.I.
Newnham
23 Nov 1858
William MAJOR otp, widower, full age, mason, father John, mason to
Elizabeth CARVELL otp, widow, full age, father Samuel Carvell, labourer
These seem to be the couple that Hepburn note on the 1861 Census.
The marriage is noted on freebmd Dec Qtr 1858.
Sandy
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Chezney
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Hi, thank for that 'seahall'
I'm afraid I'm not up to date with these abbreviations; what's N.M.I? And how did you find the date 23 Nov 1858?
That's fantastic, thank you. I cannot seem to find their marriage on freeBMD, I can find 'William Major' with those details, however when I type in 'Carvell' under 'Spouse/Mother surname' nothing comes up. I thought I was a little more skilled at this than I am proving!
How could I discover who William's deceased wife was? I can find the birth entry for William Major (junior) on freeBMD, however when I type in 'Mothers maiden name' as Carvell, nothing comes up. This could just be me being stupid again!
I looked on the 1851 census for William Major, however I cannot seem to find a William born 1817.
Reading this back, I look useless at this, but I have managed a lot of research so far - honest!
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seahall
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Hi Chezney.
Sorry for not explaining fully.
The N.M.I. is the Northamptonshire Marriage Indexes.
It shows the details taken from the original Parish Record.
On freebmd if you click on the 3b 226 it will take you a page
showing both partners.
It is harder if there are 3 husband and 2 wives. 
Elizabeth is noted as CARVIL.
William would not have Mother's name being noting until 1911 I am afraid.
Censuses often record different ages on them so don't use them as "gospel".
You seem to be doing just fine.
Sandy
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