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Anderson
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1851-1891 census lookup please
« on: Wednesday 13 May 09 11:38 UTC (UK) »
Would appreciate a kind sole looking up the following families for me.
What I have:
John Speirs born 1 Jan 1810 Thorn Renfreshire died 7 Mar 1872 Thorn Refrewshire & wife
Jane Fillans born abt 1807 where ? died 10 Feb 1865 Thorn Renfrewshire & married John on 30 Apr 1838 Abbey Paisley.
Their son:
William Speirs born abt 1844? Johnstone Ref/shire died 24 Jun 1884 Thorn Ren/shire mar. Jane Watson 29 Apr 1870 Paisley. jane born abt 1848? Thorn Ren/shire died ?
I have them with 5 children:
Hellen 21 Jan 1871
John 4 Mar 1873
William abt 1876
George abt 1897
Christina Watson Speirs 26 jan 1883 (my line) & died 4 Aug 1919 Kilsyth Stirlingshire. Christine mar. Robert Moffat on the 6 Jun 1902 Thorn Ren/shire.
If any one has the means or enough time I would love to see where  the families lived by means of the 1851 through to the 1891 or on census.
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Scotland - Stirlingshire area:
Anderson - Moffat - Comrie - Rankin - Reid - Sneddon-Snaddon

Scotland - Renfrewshire - Thorn - Johnstone:
Speirs - Watson - Fillans - Logie

England - Leeds - Yorkshire:
Oddy - Littlewood

England - Sudbury - Suffolk
Hempstead - French - Newell - Healey - Cole - Andrews

England - Staplehurst - Kent
Alchin - Waters

England - Birmingham
Bayley - Baker - Barford
Mum44
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:01 UTC (UK) »


Hello Anderson  Smiley

This looks like the family in 1861:

1861
Paisley Abbey Pg. 23

Thorn Symingtons Ltd. Paisley Abbey

SPEIRS
John  Head  50  Coal Agent  B.  Thorn, Renfrewshire
Jane  Wife  50                       B.  Bathgate, Linlithgow
William  Son  19   Coal Agent  B. Johnstone, Renfrewshire
John  Son  17    Coal Miner    B.      ~                 ~

And this seems to be the same family in 1851, although William's age is out and the are born Abbey  Undecided

1851
Paisley,  Pg. 19

Thorn Hill House, Paisley Abbey

SPEIRS
John  Head  M  40  Coal Miner  B.  Abbey, Renfrewshire
Jane  Wife  M  40                      B.  Bathgate, Linlithgow
Hugh  Son  15  Calico Printers Assistant
William  Son  12      ~          ~
John  Son  7      Scholar

children born Abbey, Renfrew.
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
Anderson
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:11 UTC (UK) »
Thank yo mum44. How quick are you. yes this looks like the family doesn't it. In the 1841 census it shows the sons Hugh and William but the ages seemed to be out with them which through me a bit. William is my line and he died 24 Jun 1884 so could you do me a favour and see if you can trace then 71, 81 . Much appreciate your help.
Anderson
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Scotland - Stirlingshire area:
Anderson - Moffat - Comrie - Rankin - Reid - Sneddon-Snaddon

Scotland - Renfrewshire - Thorn - Johnstone:
Speirs - Watson - Fillans - Logie

England - Leeds - Yorkshire:
Oddy - Littlewood

England - Sudbury - Suffolk
Hempstead - French - Newell - Healey - Cole - Andrews

England - Staplehurst - Kent
Alchin - Waters

England - Birmingham
Bayley - Baker - Barford
Anderson
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:13 UTC (UK) »
Can you tell me what the Symingtons Ltd means
Anderson
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Scotland - Stirlingshire area:
Anderson - Moffat - Comrie - Rankin - Reid - Sneddon-Snaddon

Scotland - Renfrewshire - Thorn - Johnstone:
Speirs - Watson - Fillans - Logie

England - Leeds - Yorkshire:
Oddy - Littlewood

England - Sudbury - Suffolk
Hempstead - French - Newell - Healey - Cole - Andrews

England - Staplehurst - Kent
Alchin - Waters

England - Birmingham
Bayley - Baker - Barford
Mum44
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:33 UTC (UK) »


1871
Paisley Abbey Pg. 12

13 Thorn, Paisley Abbey,Johnstone

SPEIRS
William  Head  M  27  Clerk  B.  Johnstone, Renfrew
Jane  Wife  M  24                 B.  Thorn, Renfrew
Helen  Dau  2 mth                B.  Thorn, Renfrew
John    ? ? ?     61                 B.  Thorn

The John looks as if it's father - but very bad writing  Undecided  Undecided

I'm not sure about the 1861 address ;  maybe the company they were working for?  Lived on the premises ?  I really don't know Undecided
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
Mum44
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:42 UTC (UK) »


1881
Paisley Abbey.  pg. 11

Paisley Abby, Johnstone

SPEIRS
William  Head  M  42  Gen Lab
Jane  Wife  M  33
Hellen  Dau  10
John  Son  8
William  Son  5
George  Son  2

Maybe William wasn't sure of his age  Undecided
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
Mum44
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 12:59 UTC (UK) »

1891
Paisley Abbey.  Pg. 12

Thorn, Abbey, Johnstone

SPEIRS
Mrs Jane  Head  Wid  42  Mill Worker
Elen  Dau  20   Worsted winder
John  Son  18   Cruicable maker
William  Son  5   Carpet worker
Christine  Dau  8   Scholar

All born Johnstone
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
Mum44
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 13:04 UTC (UK) »


1901
Paisley  Pg. 15

6 Thornhill, Johnstone

SPEIRS

Jane  Head  Wid  51  Housekeeper
John  Son  Un  28  Engineers slotter
Christina  Dau  18  Hemp winder
Christina Dunning  Boarder  6

all born Johnstone
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
Anderson
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Posts: 155
Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 21:47 UTC (UK) »
Thank you so much for doing that. It makes a differenece when you can see where they were living and what they were doing.
Many thanks again
Anderson
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Scotland - Stirlingshire area:
Anderson - Moffat - Comrie - Rankin - Reid - Sneddon-Snaddon

Scotland - Renfrewshire - Thorn - Johnstone:
Speirs - Watson - Fillans - Logie

England - Leeds - Yorkshire:
Oddy - Littlewood

England - Sudbury - Suffolk
Hempstead - French - Newell - Healey - Cole - Andrews

England - Staplehurst - Kent
Alchin - Waters

England - Birmingham
Bayley - Baker - Barford
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 June 09 23:40 UTC (UK) »
Interesting!  My father was John Watson Speirs, born c1914.  I lived at 3 Thornhill, Johnstone and my grandparents (William? and Margaret) lived at "The Thorn"), about 100 yards up the road.
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Anderson
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Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 June 09 00:01 UTC (UK) »
My grandmother was:
Christina Watson SPEIRS b: 26 jan 1883 Thorn Johnstone
her father was William SPEIRS b: abt 1840 & mar. Jane WATSON on the 29 Apr 1870.
Williams father was John SPEIRS & mother Jane FILLANS.
Any connection to your family?
Anderson
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Scotland - Stirlingshire area:
Anderson - Moffat - Comrie - Rankin - Reid - Sneddon-Snaddon

Scotland - Renfrewshire - Thorn - Johnstone:
Speirs - Watson - Fillans - Logie

England - Leeds - Yorkshire:
Oddy - Littlewood

England - Sudbury - Suffolk
Hempstead - French - Newell - Healey - Cole - Andrews

England - Staplehurst - Kent
Alchin - Waters

England - Birmingham
Bayley - Baker - Barford
cireferee
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Re: 1851-1891 census lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 June 09 01:14 UTC (UK) »
It was the Watson that got me in your original post.

I think we're dancing around a bit here.  My paternal grandmother was Margaret Leckie from around Houston (Renfrewshire!).  The names all seem to be family ones (John, William, Watson), so perhaps we're all cousins.

I'll check with my brother who still lives in Johnstone.
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