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tidybooks
RootsChat Aristocrat
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sharon,
I have just looked at your website, and all the info I found you knew already, only thing was staying with the Murphy's
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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sharonf73
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Posts: 187
Grandad : 1917-2008 xxx
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Hi Tom
You have been busy - thank you so much. As you said I knew some of the info but I didn't have all the Thallon info or the possibility of where young William stayed.
R A Anderson is likely to be Uncle Bob (or great uncle in my case) - Robert Anderson Hendry.
If I remember correctly I had his occupation as Motor Bus Driver but I could have picked up it wrong and it could be as you have mentioned Boat. I don't think I ever picked up that he a Register of Correction. Next time I'm at NRH I'll look at that.
I have a couple of old pictures that I think could be William's wedding at Coldstream. I had thought of scanning them one day and posting on here to see if anyone can date them and let me know the uniform. I'll get round to that. In one of the photos there is a family group one, I'm wondering if William senior is one of them.
Thanks again, for all this info, your a gem!
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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sharonf73
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Grandad : 1917-2008 xxx
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Just done a google search on 20 Young Street - it is now a bar and my mum and I had lunch in there a couple of months ago (very nice lunch too!).
Wonder if it was a pub back then. Hope he didn't live in a pub with his parents background.
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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sharonf73
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Posts: 187
Grandad : 1917-2008 xxx
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Hi again Tom
I've now had a reply from City of Edinburgh Council where they have given me plot and map of where Margaret is buried. She's in the same plot as her mother, sister, brother and 3 half sisters. I didn't know about the sister or half sisters so more to add to the tree!
The late Margaret Wood or Angus died 20th April 1890 aged 59yrs, interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
The late Margaret Thallon or Hendry died 20th December 1890 aged 35yrs, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89 (my G G Grandmother who was killed).
The late Catherine White died 12th June 1891 aged 20yrs, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
The late Annie Smith died 12th March 1897 aged 4days, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
The late Mary Angus Smith died 14th May 1902 aged 11 months, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
The late Wilhelmina Thallon died 18th April 1915 aged 51yrs, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
The late Alexander Thallon died 2nd April 1925 aged 66yrs, also interred in Section S Grave Space 89.
Because of these names I purchased some credits from Scotland's People and had a few to spare so thought I'd try the 1901 census (Tom, I know you had already looked at this but wanted to print off the page). Looking at young William's date of birth I realised he would have turned 17 by the time of the census and there is one match. A William Hendry, age 17, boarding with the family named Swanson. He was a grocers apprentice. I think this could be him. They lived at 32 Easter Road, Edinburgh - just across the road from where I lived 70 years later!
I also discovered Margaret's mother (Margaret Wood) was married three times (Thallon, White and Angus).
Planning to pay them a visit very soon.
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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sharonf73
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Grandad : 1917-2008 xxx
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Hi again
Further to my previous queries I now have another relating to the murder!
A distant relative has recently got in touch with me from the Hendry side. She gave me information on William's mother's death (William who committed the murder). Interstingly she died in 1895 and William was the informant. Since William was sententenced to 7 years in 1891 he obviously did not serve the full time and has moved from Edinburgh to Ayrshire.
Typically when I tried to view the prison records those are the years that are missing so I am unable to find out when he was released from Edinburgh Prison.
Does anyone have any other ideas where I can look or am I at a dead end here?
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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Newvrovski
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sharon
I'm a Thallon and have recently been trying to find the link between Thomas Thallon (Margaret's Father) and the rest of the Thallon Family from Fife. Unsuccessfuly I might add.
Anyway, One nugget of information I found was that Margaret Thallon had an illegitemate son (John Thallon) in 1879, she is noted on the birth certificate as being a domestic servant. John is listed living with Margaret's brother (Alexander) and sister (Wilhelmina) in West Port, Edinburgh St Cutherbert's in 1881 and in 1891.
This may be another dark secret 
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sharonf73
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oohh very interesting! I didn't know about the illigitimate son. I've not got any further back than Thomas and Margaret (Wood), Margaret's parents, but hoping to go back to Register House later this month. I'll take a note to look more into them.
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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sharonf73
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Grandad : 1917-2008 xxx
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Thanks Marcie and thanks for this info. Maybe one day I'll get all the answers, when I'm looking for something else!
Sharon
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ANDERSON - Galashiels, Coldstream
EASTON - Edinburgh
FOWLER - Yorkshire, Traquair, Pathhead, Penicuik, Edinburgh, Fife, Canada
HENDRY - Coldstream, Edinburgh
MORRISON - Edinburgh
SWANSON - Edinburgh, Lasswade
THOMSON - Currie, Leith
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