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Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« on: Thursday 14 May 09 19:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

I am searching for information regarding the parents of Louise Joffee
c1918 born Ilfracombe or around the Barnstaple area. The Joffee name i have come across is spelt in many different ways, even as Ioffee. I have hit a brick wall here and would appreciate any help.

Louise married George Arscott from Spreyton, Devon but have no date for their marriage. i have bounced around a bit on this one for months.... help!!  Smiley
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Re: Loise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 May 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »

Where did you find her name in the first place? JOFFEE is not a known name in England - the IGI for instance, only shows one instance of the name in the whole country since 1538, and FREEBMD has no instances at all. Is this a name from a birth certificate with illegible writing? Can you scan the document and post it here so that we can look at it?
A George T H ARSCOTT married a Joyce DAVY, Launceston district, March qtr 1931, which is I suspect, too soon for your couple.
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 May 09 08:42 UTC (UK) »

Bewildering isnt it... Louise Joffee (Ioffie, or even Joffie) was the great grandmother of my daughter in law. I have looked in the Barnstaple records office on occasions. I did find a Ioffie but the record was very poor so couldnt be sure.

I will ask again if anyone in the family has any documents, but last time it came up blank. My daughter in laws grandmother still lives so i can't mention her name according to the rules, but George Arscott who apparently married Louise was born feb 1903 Spreyton, Devon and his parents were Thomas Arscott 1871 South Tawton, Devon and Jane Finch c1866 (Chagford, Spreyton,) Devon.
Thanks   Huh
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 May 09 12:35 UTC (UK) »

OK I found his birth registration - George Montague ARSCOTT, Okehampton district, March qtr 1903, vol 5b page 335. Could the name be CHAFFE? This is quite a well known Devonshire name. I did locate a Lucy CHAFFE b 1908 in Exeter. Are you sure about the 1918 birthdate - that's 15 years difference?
What you need to do is obtain your daughter-in-law's grandmother's birth certificate - this will confirm her mother's name.
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 May 09 13:17 UTC (UK) »

Did this couple have their family in England?  There are no ARSCOT(T) births with mother's maiden name JOF*/JAF*/IOF* in the Eng/Wales birth index 1916-2005.

Anna  Huh

NB I know one person with surname JOFFY (he's French) and two with surname JAFFE (English/Jewish)
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 May 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »

My daughter in laws grandmother still lives so i can't mention her name according to the rules

If her birth was registered in England/Wales on or after 1 July 1912 then her mother's maiden name will be included in the index.  Feel free, if you like, to PM me with the name so that we can identify from the index what the mother's maiden name was.

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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:42 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for being so swift in your replies... i would dearly love to get to the bottom of this one!!

The children of Louise and George were all born in Barnstaple, Devon.

The birth date is correct and yes he is a tad older than Louise... maybe second marriage. Another road to take.

I will ask my daughter in law to ask for her grandmothers  birth certificate so i can scan it in.. derrr never thought of that! cheers.. anymore ideas.. i won't stop on this one until i know the outcome.!!  Grin Huh
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:52 UTC (UK) »

I just ran the 1911 census - no JOFFEE/IOFFEEs anywhere in the country. Birth certificate is the way to go.
Wait a minute!!!! BINGO!!!! A Murial A ARSCOTT's birth is registered in Barnstaple March qtr 1933 - mother's maiden name JOLLIFFE
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:54 UTC (UK) »

If i could find you i would hug you to pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent.. and thank you soooo very much! Still a weird name though lol  Grin Grin
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:00 UTC (UK) »

Annie L. Jolliffe married Montague G. Arscott, 2nd quarter 1932, Barnstaple 5b, 982.
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:02 UTC (UK) »

 Shocked gosh i am so impressed with this site.. thanks i will add this and also her name.. Annie huh... sheeezzz, well at least it keeps me busy! lol I was about to start searching on that.Bless you all. keep up the good work it is much appreciated i assure you.  Smiley
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:05 UTC (UK) »


Her birth?


Annie Louisa Jolliffe   SepQ 1909   Barnstaple   5b  400   (FreeBMD)



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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:07 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Nanny Jay... i had her as 1919 .. how wrong could i be! lol another myth busted.  Grin
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:11 UTC (UK) »

I think she is on the 1911 census index as Louisa Annie Joliffe aged 1 in Barnstaple District.
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Re: Louise JOFFEE/George ARSCOT
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:13 UTC (UK) »

Just on 1911  census now.. thanks will check it out. I feel like a weight has been lifted on my shoulders. Good break through with all of you helping. Thank you.
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