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Pialba
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I am hoping someone may be able to help me solve a mystery. I am tryng to get information on a Victor Maughan HALL born 25th June, 1904 at Hexham NOrthumberland. He was baptised at St Peters Newbrough, Northumberland, he was a son of John Joseph and Daisy Jane Hall nee Maughan. I found him on the 1911 census but was listed as an orphan, and had been adopted by a William and Jane Kirkby, of Erlington Station, Northumberland.
Next thing I found was his death at South East Hampshire. I sent for the death certificate and found he had died 3rh January 1999 at the Royal Hospital Haslar, Gosport. The address where he had lived was Northcott Houe, Bury Hall Lane, Alverstoke, Gosport, Hampshire, and the person who supplied the infromation * and it has he was his nephew.
If anyone can hlep me in anyway to try and solve the mystery I would be grateful.
I have not been able to find anything about the deaths of his parents nor have I been able to find his brother John Nicholas Craig, and sisters Dorothy, and Lucy on the 1911 census.
Pialba
* Name removed: this person may still be alive.
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Moderator comment: edited to remove name, maiden surname of mother and year of birth. This person is probably still alive! Please do not post details of possibly living people.
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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silvery
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You may have to go back a bit to work forwards, if that makes sense.
do you have the marriage cert of John Joseph Hall and Daisy Jane Maughan?
Dec 1897, district Paddington, vol 1a page 83
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1901 RG13/4829 folio 69 page 2 Thorneyburn Northumberland
John J Hall age 27 Haydon bridge Northumberland
Daisy J Hall age 24 Aukland New Zealand
Dorothy E dau age 2 Hanogate Northumberland
Lucy A L dau age 1 Thorneyburn
John N C son age 11 months Thorneyburn
Thomas W Hall brother age 19 Haydon Bridge
Elizabeth Mole servant age 18
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Nice one Pam, just beat me to it!!
John J Hall is a farmer/employer
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1891 RG12/4249 folio 134 page 23 Newbrough Northumberland
Jane Simm age 72 born Whittingham Northumberland Living on own means
Daisy J Maughan grandaughter age 14 born New Zealand
Mary Tirk servant age 37
1891 Rg12/4249 folio 133 page 22 Newbrough Northumberland
Thomas Parker age 69 Warden Northumberland Farmer
Frances wife age 65 Allendale
John J Hall age 16 grandson born Haydon Bridge ag lab
Northumberland
Robt N Hall grandson age 12? born Ovingham Northumberland
Thomas W Hall grandson age 9 Haydon Bridge
Margaret Lightford servant
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Oh dear - they seem to have gone to Canada and left poor little Victor behind 
Outbound passenger list, 11 Sep 1908
SS Virginian, sailing Liverpool -Quebec & Montreal
John J. HALL, Lab.
Daisy do Wife
Dorothy do Child
Lucy do Child
Craig do Child
Fredk do Child
Victor do Child*
Desmond do Child
* The fact that Victor's name was crossed through suggests that he was to have sailed but in the event did not.
The corresponding inbound passenger list in Canadian immigration records shows the family (without Victor) arriving 26 September 1908. John J HALL is described as a Farmer, and the family's ultimate destination is Melford, Saskatchewan. Children's ages are as follows:
Dorothy 10
Lucy 9
Craig 7
Fredk 6
Desmond 2.
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Hello
Poor child, I wondered what happened to cause this to happen? Why didn't they send for him?
Pam
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Does that mean he wasn't an orphan after all??
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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avm228
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The family's in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan in the Canadian 1911 census:
HALL, J.J. Head Mar b Oct 1874 Farmer
HALL, D.J. Wife Mar b Nov 1876
HALL, Dorothy Daughter b April 1898
HALL, Lucy Daughter b August 1900*
HALL, Craig Son b June 1902
HALL, Fred Son b July 1904
HALL, Desmond Son b September 1906
HALL, Alfred Son b November 1910 Saskatchewan
*sic, though Lucy's birth reg is actually 1899.
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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They're still in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan in the 1916 census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, though Daisy Jane has died and Victor is back with them!:
(Living in Carrot River)
John Joseph HALL Head Male Widowed 44 b England Anglican imm. 1908 Farmer
Dorthy [sic] do Daughter Female Single 18 b England Anglican imm 1908
Lucy E. [sic] do Daughter [etc] 17 [etc]
John C. do Son 15 Labourer
Fred do Son 14 Labourer
Victor do Son 12
Desmond do Son 10
Alfred S do Son 6 b Saskatchewan
Daisy do Daughter 4 b Saskatchewan
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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How strange!
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,
Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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avm228
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Daisy Jane HALL died 11 May 1913, according to Saskatchewan Vital Statistics at:
https://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Pialba
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To all of those wonderful people who replied to my query, A VERY BIG THANK YOU. I am so grateful for all the information, I will now stop tearing my hair out wondering what happened to the family.
Pialba
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