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Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« on: Friday 15 May 09 10:18 UTC (UK) »
Could somebody help me please?

I am looking for the 1901 census entry for Frederick Oscar (b1862) and Gertrude Ellen (b1857) Rolfe, last seen in Great Yarmouth in 1891.
Their children in 1891 were Elsie and Wharton, and I would like to know whether they had any more.

Many thanks,
Louise
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POWELL - Wivenhoe, Essex 1800; Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1840 onward
DOWNING STEVENSON - Great Yarmouth, 1800 onward
CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
FARMAN - Great Yarmouth, 1900 onward
DELANEY - Suffolk, 20th century
PALLANT - Suffolk, 20th century
LAZZARI - Newcastle
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 May 09 10:27 UTC (UK) »


Hello Louise   Smiley

1901
RG13.  P. 1809  Fol. 176 Pg. 3

75 King Street, Great Yarmouth

ROLFE
Frederick O  head  M  38  Pianoforte dealer & tuner . Own account
Gertrude E  Wife  M  43
Elsie F  Dau  15
Wharton H  Son  12
Gertrude M  Dau  5

Wife born Norwich, others all born Great Yarmouth

        Wink
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 May 09 10:33 UTC (UK) »
That's fantastic, thank you very much!
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CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - a bit more help please?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 June 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »
I am still looking for these Rolfes, and I cannot find death records for Frederick, or Wharton. Would someone mind giving me a fresh pair of eyes on this please?

I know that Gertrude is listed in a town directory on her own in 1921, which suggests she could be widowed.

I can find Fred's father (Frederick Wharton Rolfe) who died in 1884, but Frederick jnr is nowhere to be found.

The same goes for his son Wharton. I know there is a chance he has not been transcribed yet, but his name doesn't appear in a 1911 census search so I'm wondering whether he had died.

Searching Ancestry, there is a member who has Wharton Rolfe (born 1888) in their tree, complete with death date and spouse's name. I don't have full membership at the moment, so if anyone wouldn't mind looking for me I would be hugely grateful.

Thank you in advance,
Louise
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CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
FARMAN - Great Yarmouth, 1900 onward
DELANEY - Suffolk, 20th century
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:04 UTC (UK) »
Hello Louise   Smiley

The dates given on that tree are:

Wharton Hogarth Rolfe  1888  -  1937

Frederick Oscar Rolfe  1862  -  1947

Gertrude Ellen Rolfe (nee Freeman)  1857  -  1935

Elsie Louise Rolfe (nee Chapman)  1890  -  1967  (Wharton's wife)

Wharton's children:

Eric  1912  -  1997
Lilian Gertrude  1917 - 1990

Hope this helps   Wink

Sorry -  mmn = Chaplin   Embarrassed
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:10 UTC (UK) »
Mum44 you are my hero, thank you so much Grin
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CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »


Louise  -  don't get too excited yet  Undecided

I'm struggling to match those details to BMD  Undecided

So far the only one I've managed is birth of Lilian G Rolfe mmn. Chaplin Q2. 1917 Wakefield.  Undecided

I'll keep trying  Smiley
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:28 UTC (UK) »
I feel a bit daft, I just typed "Wharton Hogarth Rolfe" into Google and got only 1 page as a result, and all the details there match up to what you found (sorry, I should've done that first)
It shows that Elsie was from Yorkshire and they married there, so Wakefield sounds right.

At least Wharton's parents named him in such a way to make our job easier!
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DOWNING STEVENSON - Great Yarmouth, 1800 onward
CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
FARMAN - Great Yarmouth, 1900 onward
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:38 UTC (UK) »


Here are the 4 deaths:

Frederick O  age 84  Yarmouth Q1. 1947  4b. 632

Wharton H  age 48  Yarmouth  Q3. 1937  4b. 31

Elsie L  age  76  Yarmouth  Q1. 1967  4b. 628

Gertrude E  age  54  Wandsworth  Q1. 1935  1d. 532
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »
Thank you very very much.

Can I ask how you found those please?  Is there a way to search the years that haven't been transcribed on FreeBMD?

Edit -
Actually, there is another Gertrude E Rolfe who dies in Q.3 1935 in Great Yarmouth, age 77 - I think this is her, the age and location sound right
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CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
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RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:48 UTC (UK) »


Agree the Gertrude you found  -  I'm afraid I stopped when I found one  Embarrassed

I use the index on findmypast - I have a sub  Wink
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:52 UTC (UK) »


I'm really struggling to see Wharton's marriage  Undecided  Sad
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Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 June 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »
Me neither, between Wharton/Warton Rolfe/Rolf/Ralph there's nothing. That's why I thought he could've died young.

Maybe they were reckless young things and never married?
I really appreciate your help looking at this  Smiley
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DOWNING STEVENSON - Great Yarmouth, 1800 onward
CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 June 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »


I can't find him in 1911 either - praps they went away to marry ?
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Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Rolfe family, Great Yarmouth - COMPLETED
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 June 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »
That would be a nice thought, and would tie in with the first child being born in 1912.
For now I'm going to take that as the story, and maybe come back to it another time.

Thank you again, so much, for all your help
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CHAPMAN - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1830 onward
SUTTON - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk 1900 onward
RACKHAM - Great Yarmouth, 19th century
FARMAN - Great Yarmouth, 1900 onward
DELANEY - Suffolk, 20th century
PALLANT - Suffolk, 20th century
LAZZARI - Newcastle
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