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althea
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NZSG certs for Alice Eliza Ann she marries 1892 to BURTON, Dunedin
so fro your last post that is def not one you are after
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Althea
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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taonga1
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I found a fuller newspaper report for John Wakefield's death, 18 Dec 1870, Wairau River.
Nelson Evening Mail, 21 Dec 1870
FOUND DROWNED - We learn that Mr Morse, who has just returned from the Wairau by way of the Top House, brings word that in crossing the river near the Manuka Island, he found lying on the shingle the body of a man who had recently been drowned. The corpse, which has been conveyed to the Top House, proves to be that of a man of the name of Wakefield, a resident of Richmond, and the Waimea South constable has been despatched to the spot to make the necessary inquiries.
Anyone know where/what the Top House was? Or if police notes for Waimea South are archived anywhere? I'm trying to discover if this John Wakefield had been married to Christina.
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My mum's family: MESSENGER (=> NZ 1852), ROSCOE/ROSCOW, ROBINSON, GROOMBRIDGE (=> NZ 1909)
My dad's family: WHITE, CROOK (Devon => NZ)
My daughter's family: HAILEY, WAKEFIELD (=> NZ 1850s)
My husband's family: FLETCHER (Goole, Yorkshire => NZ), HILL (Devon => Australia), KNOTT (Australia)
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Lucy2
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi taonga
Yes, I mentioned the Intention to Marry (ITM) notice earlier.
You can post a separate look-up request for it, here on the board.
I wonder if the Nelson Evening Mail also carried a report of the inquest into the death of John WAKEFIELD ? These were usually held within a day or so of death, though in this case we learn from the article (21 December 1870) that the constable was being despatched to make enquiries, so given time for his travelling and return to Nelson, the inquest may have been delayed.
The inquest reports published in newspapers, often gave additional information about the deceased.
Lu
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taonga1
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Thank you for the idea about an inquest - I would expect there to have been one, but I've now gone through both the Nelson Evening Mail and the Nelson Examiner for a month after the event, and not found one. There are some crucial dates missing in Papers Past - about 4 days in the first week of January, and I'll bet my bottom dollar it's in one of the missing issues.
I'm getting the idea that there were certain classes of the population who just didn't make it into the papers unless they committed a crime. I've gone back to William and Christina's marriage year - 1858 - and I've started reading through every issue of the papers intending to read all the years covering the birth dates of possible children. They just never get a mention.
I'm also realising how patchy the search feature on Papers Past still is. When you look at the OCR text, it's so scrambled, it's hard to recognise. 'cognpetiense' for 'correspondence' !! I was going to read the NEM first, since it's not searchable, but since the NEX search is so unreliable, and since it's twice-weekly rather than daily, I've started there.
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My mum's family: MESSENGER (=> NZ 1852), ROSCOE/ROSCOW, ROBINSON, GROOMBRIDGE (=> NZ 1909)
My dad's family: WHITE, CROOK (Devon => NZ)
My daughter's family: HAILEY, WAKEFIELD (=> NZ 1850s)
My husband's family: FLETCHER (Goole, Yorkshire => NZ), HILL (Devon => Australia), KNOTT (Australia)
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taonga1
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Update on this thread:
Having seen the ITM transcription now for Christina Lankow and her second husband, Joseph Busch, I now know that John/William Wakefield had died, and I'm going to assume the 1870 Wairau River drowning was him, and order that certificate.
My other questions remain:
Where is he buried?
Where did he come from?
What ship did he arrive on?
Who were his other children with Christina?
Why can't I find their daughter, Clara Elizabeth, in any birth records?
Althea - if you ever remember who it was who was also searching for John Wakefield, I would dance a jig :-)
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My mum's family: MESSENGER (=> NZ 1852), ROSCOE/ROSCOW, ROBINSON, GROOMBRIDGE (=> NZ 1909)
My dad's family: WHITE, CROOK (Devon => NZ)
My daughter's family: HAILEY, WAKEFIELD (=> NZ 1850s)
My husband's family: FLETCHER (Goole, Yorkshire => NZ), HILL (Devon => Australia), KNOTT (Australia)
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althea
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Have tried searching the lists archives but can't find it, must have been PM, certainly spent weeeks trying to help the person find the burial
Have you looked a the NZSG fiche to see if it has any more info
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname WAKEFIELD
Given Names John
Year of Death 1870
Record Number N/R
Record Type Misc
Age N/R
Location Wairau Marlborough U 20
There usually is something more
BYe
Althea
Did you look at the NZSG first families list and see if you can see common / possible names that may be family
http://www.genealogy.org.nz/Search_31.aspx
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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althea
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Use the map to search by Wairau
http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cemetery_Map.html and uyou can see possibilities
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althea
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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newbe_nz
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Death certificates pre 1876 do not show where a person is buried
Newbe
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taonga1
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Well, I have the death registry entry in my hot little hand, and it contains very little information.
When died and where: 23 Dec 1870, Top House
Name and surname: John Wakefield
Sex: Male
Age: 50 (about)
Rank or Profession: Labourer
Cause of Death: Found drowned
Informant: Henry Williams, Coroner, Blenheim
When registered: 1 February
I was expecting him to be aged about 40 - 44, so their guess of 50 could be about right. I'm certain this is the right Wakefield death, but I was really hoping for a place of birth, or wife's name.
Where do I go from here??
I will contact the local family history groups in Motueka and Nelson.
I did find a John Wakefield in Oxfordshire, christened in 1830, who disappeared before the 1851 census. An American researcher thinks she found him on a ship to Australia with his brother Henry in 1852. One of the children in Nelson who may or may not be John's is named George Henry, so I'm wondering if the two brothers came from Australia to Nelson together.
Does anyone here know more about the LDS baptism documentation? The Oxfordshire John Wakefield caught my eye because he has a 1971 LDS baptism registered with the code for New Zealand temple. The American researcher said that wasn't proof that he was ever in New Zealand, and that baptisms could be processed anywhere in the world.
I guess I'll be visiting my local LDS family history centre too!
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My mum's family: MESSENGER (=> NZ 1852), ROSCOE/ROSCOW, ROBINSON, GROOMBRIDGE (=> NZ 1909)
My dad's family: WHITE, CROOK (Devon => NZ)
My daughter's family: HAILEY, WAKEFIELD (=> NZ 1850s)
My husband's family: FLETCHER (Goole, Yorkshire => NZ), HILL (Devon => Australia), KNOTT (Australia)
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althea
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Sorry if covered
did you try to get coroners report
http://www.archives.govt.nz/docs/pdfs/Ref_Guide_Pers_Identity.pdf
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Althea
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Pascoe, Williams, Rowe, Matthews, Eddy: St Just-in-Penwith, St Keverne, Cornwall. Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.htmlNZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723 Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html |
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