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Topic: Lookup request Parish Records Alfreton Parish (Read 962 times)
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bellbird
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Hi to all you helpful people out there. I'm trying to ascertain the death information for my great, great grandfather George Bond. I have been told he was born in Heanor, 1792, married Mary Bell 1817 Heanor. Had 3 children in different places, he was a miner and I guess travelled around for work. His wife Mary remarried January 1831 in Alfreton taking the two boys with her. Have been sent an Inquest report from Derby Mercury 6/1/1830 He had gone home drunk? and laid on fire hearth, slept, woke with clothes on fire, family put him out and he died of burns a little of two weeks later. The age given is 10 years older than I think my George is unless his birth year is a christening date and he was 10 then, I wonder if someone has access to Parish Records, Cemetery records, or whether there was a death notice in the paper which would hopefully list family. Any assistance or ideas would be much appreciated. BELLBIRD
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julesjampot
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Do you know where he is buried, could it be Alfretons St Martins Church,if it is i could possibly look for him for you as i live near there. Cheers Jules
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bellbird
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Sorry Jules The only information I have is what I posted, about George Bond. I'm hoping that someone can help me as I'm in NZ which makes it difficult to follow up some things. The Marriage at Heanor is in Phillimore's as is the remarriage of Mary to James Sanderford and other variations of his name. Variations of the surname includes Staniforth Standiford etc. George's children were Martha (1817 Belper)who I had never heard of before, Andrew 1820 (my 2x great grandfather) and George 1825. Our records here only have Andrews parents as George and Mary Bond. When Mary married James she took Andrew then 20 and George 15 with her and another son was born to the new marriage. One of the children was christened in a Wesleyan Church but that may have been out of convenience, as George and Mary were married in St Laurence Church Heanor. Don't know if any of this helps you, if he continued his Anglican connection he may well be buried in the cemetery you mention, if you are in the area of St Martins Church Cemetery and it isn't too huge maybe you could have a look for me. It would be much appreciated. BELLBIRD
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julesjampot
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Hiya Bellbird.Have just looked up Derbyshire inquest and have found what you have got on George. Does seem a little discrepancy on age but anything goes.It states he lives on Greenhill Lane Alfreton, Alfreton is actually our nearest big town Greenhill Lane is part of the little village of Riddings.Do you have No of house to see if it still stands as i live so very close to it.It states he was a collier he could have worked at Swanwick collliery which would have been his nearest and my house is more or less next to where the pit entrance would have been. Anyway back to place of burial., no good going to Alfreton its 3 mile awy.If he died in Riddings he may be buried there. The local Wesleyan Chapel has been converted to a house but there is always St james the main Church. I will look for you when i have a moment but it will not be till after 2 June as i am going away for afew days. Iwill try to find out as much as i can for you because i know how frustrating it is as i am trying to find mine who live in London which to me seems a long way off cHEERS jules
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bellbird
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Thanks Jules will look forward to any discoveries you may find, June sounds a long way off but it is only 2 weeks away and that is halfway through the new year, which seemed only a few weeks ago, but then when you're off work with concussion and whiplash each day seems the same and they go past without you realising how many have done so. Still hopefully back to work next week and life will be back to norm. Enjoy your days away. BELLBIRD
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julesjampot
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Just come on and now imoff to watch my fav programme but today i have researched that Riddings Churchwas not built until 1832 too late for George. The only church around was in Alfreton and i think Parish records are kept at Matlock County Offices Telephone 01629 580000 but i will keep trying for you Cheers Jules
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julesjampot
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Hiya Sylvia How do i access photo and i was born in 1955 so it may be alittle before my time but i may still know some names Cheers jULES
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bellbird
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Morning Jules and Marianoops I have been in contact via email with the Derby Local Studies Library who have told me that George Bond was badly burned on (4th Ult) 4th December 1829 and died a fortnight later between 18 and 26 December as a reasonably guess as reported in the inquest report 6/1/1830 Derby Mercury. Said it would be unlikely there would have been a death announcement as he was a collier and cost would have been a barrier. That as civil registration did not begin until 1837 and Cemeteries did not really start until 1855 he would most likely have been buried in a churchyard and parish records would be best source for details, no guarantee age would be recorded. Registers for St Martins Church Alfreton, are kept at the Derbyshire Record Office. Their reference for these is D654 and burials are covered from 1706 to 1953, non-conformist chapels for Alfreton did not start until 1881. Parish Registers are not available online. Research service is available and they would need to be told is he was living on Greenhill Lane in Alfreton as there were many villages in that neighbourhood. My query now is to whether a look-up request would be helpful and if so would I need to put it up as a new one so it doesn't get lost in what has gone before. If it is my George which seems to be likely I would get a death certificate which would hopefully mention his wife or his parents. So much seems to tie in with what i know, like Mary taking taking his two sons into the new marriage with her, Census giving their ages as 20 and 15 which also ties in. I was trying to find Mary and her new husband's deaths, but with the variations of his surnames on various sites I haven't been able to. See my site marriage Mary Bell and James Standiford (I think that the surname there). I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. BELLBIRD
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sunflower
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Hi Bellbird
I'm replying to your PM on this thread as its easier for others to see what has already been done.
My query is what makes you so sure that George Bond was born in 1792 in Heanor? I checked these records for you, but nothing was found. If George died before any of the censuses, where did you get his birthdate and place from?
The entry on the IGI is only a submitted one and not to be trusted!!
If you are working from that entry is does say ABOUT 1792
Carol
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Dizzifish
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Hello Bellbird…. 
I also have a connection to the Bond family down from Dorothy the daughter of Abraham who was on the 1841 also living at Greenhill Lane, Alfreton - H0.107/193/3/8
I don’t think I am going to be much help to find George only to say I didn’t come across his burial at Alfreton…burial of 1829/30 is too early for him at Riddings but our Abraham is buried there on the 14th January 1842 aged 36.
Abraham is another sad tale of an early demise also reported in the Derby Mercury on Wednesday January 12th 1842.
Inquests before Mr Whiston jun, Coroner.
“And yesterday the eleventh instant at Codnor Park, on the bodies of William Machin and Abraham Bond, two colliers in the employ of the Butterley company, whose deaths were occasioned the previous morning in consequence of falling down the shaft of a coal pit a depth of 160 yards, by reason of the rope breaking, There not being any blame to be attached to any person and the rope having been previously examined and appearing quite safe and sound, the jury returned a verdict in each case of “Accidental death”.
Isaac - who’s family are on the 1841 at Cotes Park, Alfreton - HO107/193/29/10 – died aged 34 in the Alfreton registration district in 1838 but he doesn’t seem to be buried in Alfreton either
Isaac’s widow Mary later married Joseph Newton at the Independent Chapel at Riddings in 1848
Samuel is also on the 1841 on Green Hill Lane, Alfreton - HO107/193/3/4/5, his death was registered in Alfreton area in 1853 aged 52 but haven’t found a burial for him yet.
There won’t be a death certificate for your George as he died in 1830 and civil registration didn’t begin until 1st July 1837
This is the marriage you were after on another post?
Alfreton – January 31st 1831 – after Banns
JAMES STANIFORD & MARY BOND - both of the parish of Alfreton
Both signed their mark X
In the presence of; Benjamin Ghent & Josh Rolley
The witnesses are interesting as Benjamin Gent/Ghent marries Sarah Bond at South Normanton in 1826….1851 census they are in Alfreton and Sarah gives her place of birth as Alfreton abt 1811
Witnesses on other Bond marriages at Alfreton =
Ellen Bond to James Allen in 1813 – John Bond & Josh Rolley
James Bond & Hannah Walters in 1821 – George Knight & Josh Rolley
Isaac Bond & Mary Robinson in 1830 – John Rolley & Josh Rolley
Sorry it isn’t the information you are really after……. 
As Carol has already said, I also have doubts about George Bond and the Heanor connection.
The Bond's seemed to travel around probably due to finding work.....I wish they stayed in one place.... 
Kind Regards
Sheila.
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bellbird
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To Maidmarianoops Afternoon Sylvia from a cold, rainy, haily, snowy side of the world. The George and Mary Bond you put up - the children don't fit My George and Mary Bond'c children were Martha born 1817, Andrrew born 1820 and George born 1825. As I've commented on one of my George and Mary sites Martha was news to me. Re Little Mickleover reference the little George would be too young as my George and Mary married in 1817. The date for the James and Mary Staniforth marriage fits with mine though I also have them with surnames Sanderford, Staniford and others. Interesting the comment Spouse Mary Bond Family - does that refer to her and her children Andrew and George who from Census info were with her. Have been told by Derby Local Studies Library that Parish Registers are not available on line. Must go Tea time. BELLBIRD
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bellbird
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To Sunflower. The weather is cold, raining, hailing and snowing here, hoipe you've got sunnier weather. Re your comments for George Bond death. Have been told by Derby Local Studies Library that Parish Records for Alfreton are not available on line My death date for George comes from an Inquest Report I was sent, from the Derby Mercury 6/1/1830 full report of this on Death of George Bond site. Re his birth year not sure where it came from, maybe a cousin who has done most of her through the Mormons here, she's in Auckland. More info from Derby Local Studies Library on first message on this site. Some Pay sites say they have Parish Records, not seen a free one unless I missed it. Do you know of any. Hope you had alot of fun on your hols. BELLBIRD
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bellbird
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Afternoon Dizzifish It's wet cold wintery weather here, just a quick note will get back re info you sent. There's a Tony Bond on an Abraham Bond site wonder if he is your Abraham ? BELLBIRD
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