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lizdb
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And then there is the 1871 (I think we are going over old ground from the other thread now)
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St Clements Danes
Joshua Willis 43 bn Limehouse
Caroline 43 bn Newnham Glos
Harry 11?17? bn Westmonster St James
with the question of is Joshua the same as James, and is Caroline bn Glos the same as Caroline bn Chelsea in 1861(with John then being bn Glos)
At least you can now rule out that other John/Caroline family with the dtr Ann
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lizdb
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Evie
I must be going absolutey crackers, because I cant find it now!
Lizdb
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sifer
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you and me both, too many john willis's and too many harry willis!!!!!!!
I am looking at the 1861 census shows john willis married to a caroline willis, with a daughter caroline willis age 11, and a harry willis age 6.
Is this the right one or not if so then i will send out for the birth certificate for harry willis today!!!!
and know by next week!
Just need the right page and volume number!!!
Thanks
Sifer
This is getting confusing!!!
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lizdb
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Thats the difficulty - we havent found that harry's birth for sure have we? We found an 1855 birth, but I believe you sent for it and the dad was not John, so ruled it out.
The harry in 1871 (with the Joseph for dad) is 11 or 17, image unclear, bn St James.
Isnt this what the whole other thread was about - finding Harry's birth?
it is not proving simple - we cant just magic up a ref number!
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carol8353
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Evie
I must be going absolutey crackers, because I cant find it now!
Lizdb
If you're talking about the marriage it's 1860 NOT 1850 
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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carol8353
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Hi lizdb
What quarter did you find John Willis' marriage and I'll have a look at the full index if you wish?
Evie
I just have Evie and can't find the missing bride-there sure isn't a Caroline with a suss page number 
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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lizdb
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You star Carol - thanks for coming to the rescue
1860 doesnt look as good as 1850 does it.
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evie
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Hi lizdb
What quarter did you find John Willis' marriage and I'll have a look at the full index if you wish?
Evie
I just have Evie and can't find the missing bride-there sure isn't a Caroline with a suss page number
Yes thanks Carol, I agree 1860 is not good if Henry/Harry was born about 1855.
Evie
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sifer
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so does anyone know the reference page and volume number for harry willis born 1855 then so i can send for his birth or marraige certificates
today, and make sure!!!
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evie
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Isnt this what the whole other thread was about - finding Harry's birth?
I am going back to basics cos I'm confused, please bare with me.
In 1881 and 1891 when Harry/Henry was married what are his birth years and birth places that are given. Do you have his marriage certificate?
Evie
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carol8353
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Maybe he was born in 1855,but not as a Willis- perhaps to an unmarried mum?
Who married John Willis after Henry was born.
Maybe that's why we are having so much trouble finding him?
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sifer
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1881 census shows him as being born st. james piccadilly, middlesex, england.!
civil parish: st. clement danes
occupation: porter(out of work)
Wife: matilda beesley or beasley?
Father: john willis widowed keggings maker
matilda beasley on marriage certificate father is ebenezer beasley: card wainer
Marriage is december 1879 for john and matilda
So harry or henry willis married matilda on december 1879
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carol8353
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Evie,
From the other thread this seems to be the correct family in 1891.
1891 St Clement Danes, London
19 Vere Street
Henry Willis, head, mar, 37, railway porter, born St James London
Matilda do., wife, mar, 37, born Soho London
<Harvey?> do., son, 13, scholar, born Strand London
Caroline do., daur, 10, scholar, born Strand London
Rose do., daur, 8, scholar, born Strand London
Walter J do., son, 3, scholar, born Strand London
Carol
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sifer
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thats them in 1891, have them in 1881, and have them in 1861, shows john willis in 1861 as widowed there is the problem trying to find harry willis birth record.
Have sent for it before but came back as NOT Found!!!!
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evie
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Ok thank you for the info, one last question, what age was Henry/Harry when he married and what name was on his certficate Harry or henry?
Evie
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