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sifer
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Trying to find marriage and birth of john willis.
Father of henry or harry willis born 1855, married to matilda beesley.
Was able to find harry willis and matilda beesley not problem, in census, and had john willis in census as being widowed. But need help with finding who he married, and when he was born as in mother and father.
Any help would be great,
Thanks
Sifer
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evie
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Posts: 1870
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Hi Sifer
Which area are we looking at? Where was Henry/Harry born please? 
Evie
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sifer
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looking for john willis, harry or henry willis was born in st. james piccadilly london harry is his son married to matilda beesley.
John Willis abt 1828 Stepney, Middlesex, England Head St Clement Danes, London
tried finding on free bmd, for a marriage but not sure if he is the one married to caroline or not, shows him as being widowed in the 1881 census, but can't find him before that!!!
Any help would do
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sifer
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evie
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Which census did you find John a widow and what was his occupation? Do you have the marriage certificate for Henry?
Evie
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lizdb
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just had a quick recap - didnt you say that the 1855 henry Willis birth was not, in the end, the right one, as father not John?
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evie
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Do we need to look for this information or not? 
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sifer
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i think i found john willis that was married to caroline willis
Born 1825, stepney middlesex england.
Shows them in the 1851 census john willis, caroline willis, and a ann willis age 1.
I think that ann willis died after that because she doesn't show up again in the 1861 census but a caroline willis does, wondering if she is a niece of them or something.!!!!!!1
Ages seem to make sense so far as i can figure!!!!
Could someone verify this for me if thats ok !
Thanks
Sifer
You guys and ladies have been a great help showing me what to do, and where too look!!!!
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lizdb
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CAroline listed as daughter in 1861
RG9 178 89 36
6 Holles Str, Westminster
John 35 Factor? ? Maker bn Glos Newnhall
Caroline wife 30 bn Middx Chelsea
Caroline 11 bn St PAncras
Harry 6 bn St Clements Danes
So, John was born Gloucestershire.
With apologies - see reply no 55 for correct places of birth 
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 19 May 09 12:55 UTC (UK) by lizdb »
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lizdb
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I am not convinced the 1851 is the same family, places of birth are so way out! ages are good.
1851 HO107 1551 60 2
372 Craster? Street Stepney
John 26 Coal Porter bn Whitechapel
Caroline 20 bn Hants Gosport
Ann 1 daughter bn Shadwell
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lizdb
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Def a different family - as here they are in 1861
rG9 278 149 14
St George in the East
John 34 Lab at foundry bn Whitechapel
Caroline 30 wife bn Gosport
Ann 11
Daniel 9
Susan 7
Caroline 3
John 8 mths all children bn St George
So that rules out that 1851 family!
But I cant as yet see the other family (John bn Glos) in 1851.
With the gap in ages between Caroline and Harry it is possible of course that this was a second marriage.
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sifer
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well i thought that john was born stepney london, and married a caroline murray.
had harry willis, but it looked like caroline 1850 was from a cousin or something,was looking at ancestory.ca thats where i came up with the other ones
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sifer
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see looking at the 1881 census shows henry willis born 1855, matilda beasley, henry john willis, caroline willis.
Then right next door it shows john willis 1828 stepney middlesex england as being widowed
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evie
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Hi lizdb
What quarter did you find John Willis' marriage and I'll have a look at the full index if you wish?
Evie
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