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Josh T
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Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« on: Sunday 17 May 09 14:04 UTC (UK) »

A Passenger list from 12/04/1913 has details of my Great Grandmother Florence May Tucker, b.1895 Plymouth, sailing on board the NEW YORK ship from Southampton to New York with her brother Richard Edwin Tucker.

When Florence moved to New York she met my Great Grandfather Clarence Thetford and they were married on 20/10/1916. Florence became pregnant and my Grandfather Harry Thetford was born in New York on 16/11/1917.

Can anybody possibly find out for me when, from where and on what ships they all sailed back to England on? Clarence sailed back to Liverpool and Florence sailed back to London.

Thanks, Josh.
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Re: Florence May Tucker Plymouth.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 May 09 15:11 UTC (UK) »

Think this is the family, but they all travelled to Liverpool.


New York to Liverpool travelling 3rd class arriving May 25 1919 on the Baltic, White Star shipping company.

Clarence Thetford age 26 fireman
Florence Thetford age 25 housewife
Henry Thetford child aged 1year 6 months

Address given as 35 Folsen St Manchester


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Re: Florence May Tucker Plymouth.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

Think this is the family, but they all travelled to Liverpool.


New York to Liverpool travelling 3rd class arriving May 25 1919 on the Baltic, White Star shipping company.

Clarence Thetford age 26 fireman
Florence Thetford age 25 housewife
Henry Thetford child aged 1year 6 months

Address given as 35 Folsen St Manchester


Jan

    You are awesome. Thank you Jan.
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 12:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Not sure you have this so I thought I would post just in case:
It may be your Clarence

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Clarence Thetford
23
address; 108 St Marks Place, Brooklyn, NY
DOB : 3 Aug 1894
Naturalized citizen
born: Manchester England

The image seems to have been cut off ...but on the next page is his signature.

In 1901 he is with family in UK transcribed a Clarene Thetford Dau, 7 ...but image def. says Clarence

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:22 UTC (UK) »


    I never saw that Draft registration info before Deb. If I ever get to New York then I'll check that old address out.

    I don't know if anyone can help but I am trying to trace where my Grandfather Harry Thetford b. 16/11/1917 in New York was born exactly. i.e. whether it was in Brooklyn. Whether it was at home or in a hospital etc.

    Thank's.

      Josh.
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Josh

If I was closer I would do it for you  Grin ... maybe you can google the address.

.... I do see that he was born in 1894 on the reg card ...he is your Clarence? do you have him in the census? I cannot see him on a Passenger list going to the USA.

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Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:34 UTC (UK) »


   Hi Deb.

   Clarence sailed on the Carmania (Cunard) from Liverpool to Ellis Island, New York on 24 Jan 1914 arriving on 1st Feb 1914. The census listing him as a girl aged 7 was him you are right. He lived at 16 Grasmere Street in Broughton. His birthdate was 3rd Aug 1894.

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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:38 UTC (UK) »

that's great as I thought I had seen a birth reg for him in 1893.  I will look for more..... did you know he was in the war?

deb

added ..I will look for Harry's birth
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 22:40 UTC (UK) »

that's great as I thought I had seen a birth reg for him in 1893.  I will look for more..... did you know he was in the war?

deb



    If you mean that he fought then I had absolutely no idea. Do you have anything?
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 23:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Poor Clarence, no wonder he went to America he probably had a complex about his name as no one seemed to get it right!

In the 1911 census he is given as CLASONER Thetford aged 17 occupation Mechenis!!! (Machinist?)
He is with his parents HENRY (45) Dock labourer born Salford, RUTH (45) and sister ETHEL (21) upholsteress.

They are living at 5, Coleridge Street, Broughton, Salford.

I wonder why the family returned from America if he became a naturalized citizen.

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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 23:09 UTC (UK) »

I am thinking that if he signed up then he may have .... but then again he returned home with Florence and Harry in 1919, so I am not sure.


still looking

deb Smiley

added .. on the draft card , his occupation looks like "eng?? metal? co? bench hand"
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Re: Florence May TUCKER Plymouth.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 May 09 08:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi
That would fit in with mechanic from the 1911 census.

Jan
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