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Topic: COMPLETED with thanks - Searching for Roxwell Baptism (Read 276 times)
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Firehorse
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Hello, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me find a baptism for the following:
Elizabeth BRIGHT (I think her middle name might have been Hester)
Born: 1837 Roxwell Essex
Parents: William Bright and Sarah Fletcher
I can't find anything on FreeBMD because of the year she was born, being 1837 and know that she was living in Roxwell in 1841 with her family, aged 4.
If anyone would be able to kindly do a look up of the Roxwell baptism records that would be a huge help.
Thank you!
Jill
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Bryant
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Grandfather Bryant 1897
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Hello Jill
Methinks you may be looking in the wrong place?
William & Sarah (parents) are living in Roxwell in 1841 and it is stated they were born in Essex....Y for being born in the County
But, in 1861 (1851 not available to me) they are still living in Roxwell (William is now a letter carrier) where Sarah states she was born in Aldgate, London, Middx
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Elizabeth Bright born 24th Nov 1836, baptised 8th January 1837 at St Anne's, Commercial Road, Limehouse (London, Middx) parents William & Sarah Bright.
William is stated as being a caulker by occupation....
Source...Docklands Ancestors via findmypast.com
source reference X069/001
entry number 1693
1825
21st May
William Bright married Sarah Fletcher at Saint Katherine's Creechurch (London, Middx)...curtesy of the IGI's
Happy researching
Bryant
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Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?) Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area). Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Firehorse
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Hi Bryant, Thanks very much for replying to my message.
You are spot on with the marriage of William Bright and Sarah Fletcher at Saint Katherine Creechurch being the correct couple.
The 1851 Census HO107/1776/115/page 12 states:
William Bright, Postman, Norton Mandeville, Essex
Sarah Bright, Wife, Born Aldgate, Middx.
Frederic, Son, 17, Butcher, Born Roxwell
Mary Ann (my G-G Grandmother), Daur., 11, born Roxwell
From the 1841 census, Elizabeth Bright's older brother (by abt. a couple of years) James Bright was born in Roxwell and from subsequent records from England and New Zealand, where he eventually settled, he was born in Roxwell, so I'm not sure if that would place Elizabeth being born in London, Middlesex or not, though it could be a possibility because of Sarah the mother being from that neck of the woods.
I do have a record in my family tree that states an Elizabeth Hester Bright was baptised in Roxwell 7th May 1837, but I'd put this information in years ago without any source for that information when I was a novice doing the family tree, and since that time, my computer crashed a couple of times so I can't find out the possible source anywhere. I know that the LDS site doesn't have the records for this time at Roxwell.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'd be interested in seeing what happened to Elizabeth Bright as I've been able to determine what happened in the lives of five of the seven siblings, it's just Elizabeth and her older sister Sarah Bright (born 1829) that I'm having a problem with.
Jill
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Firehorse
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Hello again Bryant,
The last 'sighting' of Elizabeth Bright was the 1841 census when she was four. The 1851 census, when she would have been still single around 14 years old, doesn't show her with her mother and father, unless she had gone into service somewhere else, possibly outside of Essex. However, I haven't been able to find her. 
The only records that I have for Sarah Fletcher's and William Bright's marriage is from the IGI and also an imagine of a handwritten record from the Pallot's Marriage Index, which unfortunately shows no witnesses. However, I have been able to ascertain from the IGI and what appeared logical to me is the christening of Sarah Fletcher to parents Thomas William Fletcher and Sarah for December 1801 St. Botolph without Aldgate. I seem to remember I had found a profession for her father Thomas somehow from an earlier census, but it appears that information disappeared when my computer crashed a while back!  I'm thinking he was a plasterer of some sort, but can't be positive on that one. Also from this, I was able to find possible siblings for Sarah Fletcher: a William Fletcher b. 1803 St. Botolph without Aldgate and Mary Ann Fletcher b. 1805 also of St. Botolph w/o Aldgate.
It may very well be that Elizabeth Bright died and that is why I couldn't find her. (My Ancestry subscription just ran out and so, as you can imagine, I'm missing having that info at hand right now!  ) The two marriages you'd mentioned also could be her, so I'll have to look into both possible married names and follow up on the censuses to see if either of the two Elizabeth Brights came from Roxwell.
Again, I appreciate your thoughts Bryant and it could very well be that Elizabeth was born in London. It's good to think outside the box sometimes and sometimes the 1841 seemed to conveniently say 'yes' to the county where they were born, but a lot of my ancestors weren't in fact born in the county stated.
Jill
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Firehorse
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Just also wanted to add that a cousin a couple of years ago went to Roxwell to look at the Bright family gravestones there, but she didn't find a grave for an Elizabeth Bright, so if she died very young there would have been a great chance that she would have been laid to rest in the village of Roxwell where her family were residing.
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Diblet
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Sarah Bright was baptized in Roxwell on 31st August 1828 to William and Sarah Bright.
Elizabeth Hester Bright was baptized on 7th May 1837 to the same parents.
There is a burial entry for an Elizabeth Esther Bright aged 5 in Roxwell on 8th March 1842.
Hope this helps.
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Firehorse
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Hi Diblet,
This really does help!!  . It must be the same Elizabeth - the ages tally and name Esther/Hester are very near. So this would settle, I believe, what happened to Elizabeth. I had a look on FreeBMD to see if could find a corresponding death there, but nothing pops up for that particular first quarter of 1842 except for two Elizabeth Brights of Chelmsford district in September quarter and one Elizabeth Bright in March quarter of 1842 in Witham which is not the same reg. dist. for Roxwell.
I have just one sibling of the seven born to William and Sarah to figure out and that would be Sarah Bright, the elder daughter.
Thank you so much for looking that up for me! 
Best wishes,
Jill
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