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Topic: When did he die? (Read 854 times)
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LizzieW
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Presumably John's widow was much younger than him, he would have been 81 in 1932! There is only one marriage of a John Fairley in Beverley and that was in 1887, when he was about 26, if his bride was only 16 that would make her just 10 years younger and, therefore, 71 in 1932. Is this what the marriage cert states? Or did his first wife die and his widow is a 2nd wife?
Just throwing out ideas. Maybe John and his wife (?1st) had a son called John Fairley and you have got them mixed up.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
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LizzieW
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Oops got my calculations wrong, John Fairley would have been about 36 when he married, with his bride 16 years younger, making her about 65 when she re-married in 1932.
How do you know John Fairley lived and worked in Beverley until 1911. The reason I ask is that on the 1901 census, John's occupation is given as Hawker and states works on "own account". It is possible, therefore, that he travelled away from Beverley to try to make more money if he was very poor. There is a death in London in December quarter 1903 of a John Fairley aged 54, which may be your g.g.grandad. He would have been about 52 if born in 1851, but ages are only as accurate as told by the person who notifies the death.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
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LizzieW
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Ian
I've searched Findmypast - which is easier than Ancestry from 1911 to 1935 and there are no deaths for John Fairley of the appropriate age in Beverley, or Hull. I notice that his widow, your g.g.gran re-married in Hull in 1931 but I searched past 1931 in case John had just gone walkabout and your g.g.gran assumed because of his age he had died somewhere.
Have you found John Fairley on the census prior to his marriage? I did a quick search for men with the name John, born in Weaverthorpe between 1840 and 1860. There were quite a few, but one was called John Farley on the 1881 census. Neither he, nor his family appear on the 1891 or subsequent census, as you said he was a widow when he married your g.g.gran, I wonder if he was illiterate and someone just wrote Fairley instead of Farley, or the other way round put Farley instead of Fairley on the 1881 census.
I see on the 1911 census that John's age was given as 69, presumably that is accurate but makes his year of birth 1842. There is a death for a John Farley age 64 in Leeds in Dec 1911, which is a possibility, that makes a birth year of about 1847. It's not that far from Beverley and if he was a hawker, he could easily have gone to Leeds for work. There is also a death in Auckland (Co.Durham) in 1928 of a John Fairley aged 85, which makes a birth year of about 1842/3. (I know his birth is registered in 1851 but it could be that he was actually born earlier than this, you could get the birth certificate to clarify his date of birth).
Some suggestions if you've not already tried these.
1. Get marriage certificate of John Fairley and Ann Maria Smith, it could be that John was his 2nd name and his death was registered in his first name.
2. Get the marriage certificate of one of your g.g.grandparents' children - Charles' marriage registered June 1920 Beverley 9d 261 - to see if it states whether his father was deceased at time of the marriage, this cuts down the search period.
3. Once you've got Charles' marriage certificate decide whether to get the 1911 death certificate of John Farley or the 1928 certificate of John Fairley.
Sorry not much help really.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
STANTON - Lincs
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- Bethnal Green
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dixel
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I have just been reading your letters regarding a John Fairley b 1851, Weaverthorpe,who is the father of my Grandmother from his marriage to Anne Heskett,B: 1851 Beswick, but I have found no birth or marriage of her. They had two children Alice B: 1878 Leeds and Arthur B:1880 Beverley D: 1905. Have found his marr to Anne Smith Mar 1887 and 6 children. In 1891 census they were living at Taylor's Row Beverley General Lab. i would be grateful if you had any info on John's first marriage or any other info you may have on them.
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