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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 May 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »

OHHHH! A piccie!!!! L-R front row: Mr. Armit, Trader, Strathclair; so very front left, in 1887!
http://tinyurl.com/o3yr2v

Collection of information on Mary (Taylor) Armit
http://www.glenbow.org/collections/search/findingAids/archhtm/mccloy.cfm

Lots of records from William Armit, HBC London Secretary
http://www.glenbow.org/collections/search/findingAids/archhtm/hardisty.cfm

William also highlighted in google book:
Keepers of the record: the history of the Hudson's Bay Company
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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 May 09 18:54 UTC (UK) »

a descendant...but has the time line wrong, as he has David arriving in Canada before he was even born  Tongue  Grin
http://www.cursiter.com/pages/form_results.htm

you can order this issue: Vol. 11, No. 3  http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/mftq.html
Covers Mountain Men / The Mountain Man's Outfit / David Armit, HBC Trader

Mary applied for her metis scrip in 1875
Applied: 1875    Mary Taylor (Armit) b: 1854 NWT
children applied after turn of century
http://tinyurl.com/r2bqqs
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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 May 09 19:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi again J.J.

Thanks for all this detail you're coming up with ... and a fantastic picture too!  You're getting as much excitement out of this as I am Wink It's much appreciated and really helps bring ancestry to life!

In the Minnedosa Cemetery Records, would you happen to know what the headers for the table might be, e.g.:
Section (A,B,C, etc)  Lair (34 in the case of the Armit family) and ?

William Armit was the Company Secretary of The Hudson's Bay Company and, I believe, was related to David.

I'm not sure about the Town, but the Lake and River are most definitely named after David.  I found these entries in an e-book Place Names of Manitoba by Penny Hann (ISBN 0-88833-067-7) just yesterday:


“ARMIT, lake, west of Swan Lake, Manitoba-Saskatchewan border – This lake, in the Porcupine Provincial forest Reserve, was named by J.B. Tyrrell when he was surveying the area. After David Armit, chief trader, Hudson’s Bay Company in Manitoba House in 1889."

“ARMIT, river, flows northwest into Red Deer Lake – Also named by Tyrrell for David Armit.”

Today I have received an ancestry report for David's sister Fotheringham Armit who emigrated to Australia following her marriage in London, Englandto a sea Captain - Charles William Davidson - so now I have that to add to the Armit branch of my tree

David emigrated to Canada about 1865 - 1867, although the 1906 and 1911/1916 Census are in dispute over the date.  I thought the tone of the 'descendant' comment you referred me to was a bit rude and uncalled for.  I'd found it earlier and instantly formed that opinion Sad

How do I access the information at the Glenbow Museum?  Is it available on-line?

Regards

Chiad Fhear
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Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 21 May 09 19:45 UTC (UK) »

I love the HBC archives...Fabulous history...

The cemetery numbers and letters represent location, as on a map....

Glenbow has wonderful files & they will send you copies of their info for a fee...I don't know of anyone who does lookups there...
You can send for a copy of the photo as well...
 The email address jacquie gave you will get you information on the signup date for david's servant's contract with the HBC. They may send you a copy of the image as well...He likely sailed within the year...He is already established here by 1867 from the info on the publication I gave you


David & Mary were part of the signing of treaty #4
http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/al/hts/tgu/pubs/t4/trty4-eng.asp

I have tried to find the HBC profile on David, as he was prominent and so should have a huge file
(sample here, in which he is actually mentioned)
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/biographical/g/garton_john1847-1888.pdf
There was one on my hubby's LOWLY HBC servant, so a chief trader should have tons of references to him at the archives...  They do general searches for free...
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/about/reference.html


Forgot to answer about the descendant.....yes... I though the comment was a bit haughty...
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John Oliphant Armit - David's brother
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 21 May 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

http://genforum.genealogy.com/armit/messages/53.html
thread on John Oliphant Armit and wife Mercy Miller,

No idea what this is about...
http://tinyurl.com/qzzps5

His cadet papers
http://www.ans.com.au/~rampais/genelogy/india/indexes/cadfram.htm

his deaths & those of children ( some have birth dates  as well), etc...It says his mother was Mary Pearson...
http://tinyurl.com/qytghv

Do you have John and Mercy & 3 children in Eastern Extension,  Manitoba on the 1881 census...He's a dentist?
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1881/001049-119.02-e.php?id=MAN_981521
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Jean Duncan ( Armit ) Cowper - David's sister
« Reply #20 on: Friday 22 May 09 03:39 UTC (UK) »

awe,  Undecided here's a son of your Jean, killed ww1
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=479586
Son of William Cowper and Mrs. Jean Duncan Armit Cowper, of "St. Edmunds," Sunningfields Rd., Hendon. London.

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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #21 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

J.J.

You'll have to hold the horses!  You're sending in links faster than I can access and read them!

I'M NOT COMPLAINING THOUGH Grin  It's amazing what you're coming up with.

Through one of my colleagues here at work - who has a subscription to Ancestry.com - I've had contact with an ARMIT descendant who lives just a few miles from me who was contacted by one of his relations in Australia and he's sent me a whole load of information.

Some time ago I contacted another link from another forum site Shocked who had posted way back in 2002 and she has just returned 31 pages of information Smiley

With regard to the picture you found
http://tinyurl.com/o3yr2v how did you find out that David was "front left"?  I can't read the 'who's who'.

I loved the piece on Treaty #4 ... another gem!  With regard to the article you had no idea about, I'll send it to my hill-walking buddy - who's a solicitor - and see what he makes of it!

Thanks again for all your help with this new line of 'Canadian Cousins'

Regards

Chiad Fhear
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Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #22 on: Friday 22 May 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »

Horse's held...Am really busy with things and this was my chewing gum when I relaxed...Glad I could find some things of interest...
If you need anything here in Manitoba just shout and jacquie or I may be able to find it...and in Ontario we have tons of helpers if you need births or marriage dates...Just add a reply to this query, no need to ever start a new one as all are listed here...
Back to other things...J.J.
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Re: David Armit of The Hudson's Bay Company
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 18 June 09 18:07 UTC (UK) »

My name is John Rae Armit, my grandfather was John Rae Armit and my great grandfather was David Armit married to Mary Taylor.  He was a junior trader at Mainitoba House (Kinosota). My sister still lives there. He came from Kirkwall Orkney, and our family before that, we believe, came from Polduff in Fife
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