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Northerngirl
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griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« on: Thursday 21 May 09 08:34 UTC (UK) »
Hello to all.

I have been trying to trace the earliest recording for my Mills family in Gortmellia, County Mayo.  I note that there are three men who are subject to Griffith Valuation called Mills in that hamlet.  I wondered if anyone would know how I could find out when the earliest recording for them is?  I could start to gather information together regarding their family members thereafter - that is was it 1848 that the Mills were first recorded or perhaps 1851 or for the last year 1864?

Thank you.

J.A.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
shanew147
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 09 08:36 UTC (UK) »
each record has an associated date - e.g. on the AskAbout Ireland site (http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php) you click the details icon, and the date for that valuation is shown.

some areas (e.g. parts of North County Dublin) have data for two dates, which is listed in some sources - e.g. origins network


Shane
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Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
Northerngirl
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 May 09 08:41 UTC (UK) »
Oh Shanew147

Thank you very much - I'll have a look at the link now.

J.A.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
shanew147
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 May 09 08:44 UTC (UK) »
the 3 Mills records that I see in Gortmellia (Anthony, Darby & James) have a published date of 1855




Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
Northerngirl
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 May 09 08:50 UTC (UK) »
Wow Shane

What a brilliant source of information. Thank you so very much.  All I need to obsess about now is which plot belonged to who!!!!

J.A.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
kingskerswell
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 May 09 09:13 UTC (UK) »
Hello,
        If you use Shane's link not only can you find who held what, but the maps allow you to locate the position of the holdings in the townland.

Regards
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Northerngirl
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Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 May 09 09:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kingskerswell

I am having sooo much fun with this map - I've just popped into Gortmellia now.  Wow

J.A.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
Northerngirl
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Posts: 381
Re: griffith valuations for 1848 onwards - how to date the information?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 May 09 09:23 UTC (UK) »
Sooo.

It seems from the map information for 1855 that the land was as good as empty of farm building from where my grandparents lived in the 1920's.  Which means that they must have been down by the Strand at the waterside before 1855 ish.  Mmmm.  Very interesting.  Thank you once again.

J.A.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
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