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Martha Pool nee Kemp
« on: Sunday 24 May 09 08:54 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for information on my Great Grand Aunt Martha Kemp.

Martha was born the 23 August 1867 Clifton Yorkshire England. 

She married a John Dobb Pool born about 1867 Beverly Yorkshire England.  It is unknown when they married and if they had a children.  It is also possible that she remarried as another cousin has her down as Martha Steir McGuire.

She emigrated to Canada along with her sister Bessie but we do not know when.

Any information would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:06 UTC (UK) »

Possibly your Martha:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/peel1924.htm
(Search for Stier)
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:14 UTC (UK) »

Yes that my Martha.

Thanks for that info.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:22 UTC (UK) »

Would you know Bessie's date of birth, please?
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:37 UTC (UK) »

This where it gets interesting.  I have a photo that Says Great Aunt Martha with her Sister Bessie in Canada.

However Bessie must be short for something.

The sisters I have for Martha are as follow:-

Elizabeth born 1859 Stockton Yorkshire married John Groves 31 Mar 1883 York England

Dinah born 1861 Stockton Yorkshire married John Bowker 1885 had children

Nancy born 1864 Stockton Yorkshire.

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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:38 UTC (UK) »

Huburtus on the Ontario census:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=82393
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Will look for their arrivals (I only have immigration to the states, not Canada).
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:46 UTC (UK) »

May be coincidence, but
Dina Bowker arriving 1865-1935, Quebec (cannot view record)

Dinah Bowker, UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960, arriving Southampton

Could Dinah have visited Martha, or just a coincidence with the names.
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Using exact matches options, its possible Dinah was born in 1861 and travelled back to the UK in 1921.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

HMMM I wonder now thats got me thinking.

I think Dinah must have just been visiting cause all of her 8 Children up to 1900 were all born in Yorkshire in England.

It could be possible that she went after this date.

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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 May 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »

I added one more sentence to my previous post...so you may not have seen the bottom of the post.
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I do not see the other sisters travelling.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:00 UTC (UK) »

Dinah was born in 1861 she married John Bowker 1885

Had the following children

Elizabeth E Bowker 1886 Yorkshire
John K R Bowker 1888 Yorkshire
Reginald Bowker 1888 Yorkshire
Lucy Bowker 1890 Yorkshire
Elise Bowker 1895 Yorkshire
Christopher Bowker 1898 Yorkshire
Sydney Bowker 1900 Yorkshire
Alec Bowker 1900 Yorkshire

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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:10 UTC (UK) »

There's a chance Alec travelled to Canada and returned to the UK.  He possibly travelled around 1921.  I cannot view additional information.  Hopefully, someone will be able to help.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:14 UTC (UK) »

Martha was widowed by 1924, when she remarried.  I wonder if Dinah and Alec visited in 1921?  Perhaps Martha's husband died that year?  I wonder if any other family members came over (providing Dinah and Alec did actually visit, of course).
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:17 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that Lisa

I do not know when Martha's first husband died or where I am trying to look for that present.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:21 UTC (UK) »

Because Stier is spelled various ways, it might be a bit difficult, but here are some sites:

http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
1901 and 1911 Census

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/
Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/
Some births, marriages, deaths (most of my rellies/ancestors are not listed, so it certainly is not yet a complete list)

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html
Includes Attestation Papers and immigration indexes

It is getting quite late, so I have to stop for now.  I will check here again in the morning.  Sorry I have to leave.
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Re: Martha Pool nee Kemp
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 24 May 09 10:32 UTC (UK) »

I think I have managed to find Martha on the Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid

there is a Martha McGuire Cemetery Mt Pleasant (Potter's Field) County York Township Toronto Reference is YK

If this is her what do I do with it and how do I find out date of death etc.


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