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fred111
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Missing Scorers
« on: Sunday 14 June 09 10:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi
I am stuck on a Census entry.

Ellen Haswell,(born 1869 at Seghill, daughter of William & Eliza Haswell) 
married James William Scorer in 1890 at 'Tynemouth'.

On the 1901 C in Camperdown,  Eliza, now a widow supported by her son Thomas,
 has Thomas Scorer, Grandson aged 9 born at Prudhoe,  also there.
I am unable to find Ellen &  James Scorer either on the 1891 or 1901 C.
I can find other Scorers at Prudhoe, who could be family.

Any ideas, please?
Liz

Sorry, should be William
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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 June 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »
Hi Liz,

Did she have a 9 year old grandson at age ca. 30  Huh

Can you post the 1901 census reference please?
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 June 09 10:52 UTC (UK) »
Tati,
I think Liz must have found Ellen in 1911 as she is asking for 1891 and 1901 look-ups

possible death reg Sep 1895 Tynemouth  10b 129
Scorer    James    aged 44   


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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 June 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »
1891 census  RG12 Piece 4245  Folio 24  Page 42
155, Cross Row, Prudhoe, West Wylam, Northumberland

SCORER
James  head m 33  Locomotive Engineman     Mickley Square N'land
Elleanor wife m 22                         Seghill  N'land


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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »
Struggling to find her in 1901 though, can you please give any children's names?


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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:04 UTC (UK) »
That's the wrong death registration  Undecided

I can see James in 1901 census index on 1901censusonline still living in Prudhoe, just can't see him on ancestry, can you, Tati?

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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:08 UTC (UK) »
Very odd, same man, same address, wife's name different!!

1901 RG13 Piece  4822 Folio 23 Page 37
155 West Wylam, Prudhoe
SCORER
James  head m  43  Engine Driver Locomotive   Mickley
Mary A  wife  m  30                       Durham Addison
Elizabeth J  8
Joseph  7
Hannah  5
Ellen  3
children all born West Wylam

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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »
And I can't find any Scorers at Camperdown in 1911 except a William age 19  Huh

Oops - meant to say Hi Barbara first, bien sûr!
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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:25 UTC (UK) »
There's a death

Ellen Scorer age 23
Jun 1891 Hexham 10b 212

and a marriage
James William Scorer to possibly Mary Ann Lawton 
Jun 1893 Hexham 10b 485

(first marriage shows that he was James William)
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 June 09 11:51 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tati, Sorry, lunch break  Smiley  and Liz has also gone offline

Quote from: fred111 on Sunday 14 June 09 10:38 UTC (UK)
On the 1901 C in Camperdown,  Ellen, now a widow supported by her son Thomas,  has Thomas Scorer, Grandson aged 9 born at Prudhoe,   .

1911 Camperdown shows ELIZA HASWELL, aged 75 with a Thomas HASWELL aged 34 and William SCORER aged 19 (as you said, Tati)

so Liz,   it's Eliza in 1901, she is Ellen's mother and the 1901 census doesn't show Ellen at all, she has died and James Scorer has remarried, his and Ellen's son William (not Thomas) living with grandmother Eliza

Here's the 1901 census:

RG13 Piece 4808 Folio 167 Page 26
40 The Square,
Eliza HASWELL  head wid 66        Cullercoats
Thomas   "         son   unm 24 Coal Miner Hewer  Seghill
William SCORER grandson   9            Prudhoe
 + 3 boarders
   
Solved (I think)!
Barbara   Smiley
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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 June 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »
Wow, solved indeed.
It was my fault I put Thomas and not William on the 1901 C.
Sorry for the confusion.
Despite my mistake, you managed to sort it out!
And even give me a 1911 C entry!
Many, many thanks
Liz
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 June 09 14:44 UTC (UK) »
Hi Liz,

It was only the free 1911 index, you might like to look at the whole thing yourself for a few credits  Smiley

Glad that's sorted
Barbara
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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 June 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »
No wonder I couldn't find the Scorers on Ancestry - it was mistranscribed as Sewer!!
Liz
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 June 09 17:36 UTC (UK) »
Was it?  Hope you've sent them an amendment then so that others can find them

Smiley  Barbara
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Re: Missing Scorers
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 14:03 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for the tip. Good idea.
Liz
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