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Millstream
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Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851 - Closed
« on: Tuesday 26 May 09 06:46 UTC (UK) »
I am tracing my family history back to Scotland from Australia. The original Lynch that came to Australia on his own was Edward who was born in Balmaghie, Kirkcudbright/Kelton, Dumfries, Scotland around 1833 (from his death certificate in Australia in 1906). Edward arrived in Sydney, New South Wales around the 4.9.1856 on the "Lloyd" I am now trying to trace the rest of his family back through Scotland. The information I have located to date is in the 1841 and 1851 census (1851 below) with his parents Owen Lynch Born in Cavan Ireland and Margaret born in Meath Ireland.

I have started to trace the family up through the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 census in Scotland but I have been unable to locate John or James lynch anywhere after 1851??

I am assuming one of two things: Firstly, I am missing the two them somewhere in the areas that I am looking at within Scotland, or Secondly, they have emigrated overseas. I am 99 per cent sure they have not come out to Australia, therefore I’m assuming if they emigrated, then they probably went to the United States or Canada?

The remainder of the family after 1851 that I have been able to locate seem to have remained in that bottom left hand area of Scotland - Penninghame, Wigtownshire. Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire. Holywood, Dumfriesshire, etc.

Any advice or direction I should start looking in to locate John or James lynch after the 1851 census would be much appreciated.


1851 Census (Village of Rhonehouse(869) Parish: Kelton
Owen Lynch 40
Margaret Lynch 42
Philip 19
Edward  17
John  15
Mary  13
James  10
Agnes  8
Margaret  6
Michael  4
Dolly  1

Regards
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Owen and Margaret Lynch  Kirkcudbright, Scotland 1841
Owen Lynch born Caven Ireland 1811
Margaret Stewart born Meath Ireland 1809
Edward Lynch arrived Australia in 1856 from Scotland
Patrick Joseph Ryan Gallway Ireland 1856
Mary Agnes Brady County Sligo Ireland 1859
William Wales Cockermouth, Cumbria England 1800
Eliza Hynes Ireland 1811
George Henry Sykes England 1857

This Information is Crown Copyright from, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.bdm.nsw.
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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 07:10 UTC (UK) »
Or perhaps they died?

I couldn't see any obvious Lynch's b Kelton in 1861. Owen is not with Margaret in 1861 either although it doesn't say Margaret is a widow.

Do you know when Owen died? I originally thought that Owen and the two boys may be away working somewhere, but I can't locate them ... or perhaps as you say, they may have migrated.

The surname Lynch may have been misspelled.  Undecided
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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 08:02 UTC (UK) »
I've checked for deaths in Scotland (after 1854) but nothing obvious and I've also checked the 1880 US census and the 1881 Canadian census. Again, nothing.

There are a few in the Lanarkshire area but mainly b. Ireland - none b. Kirkcudbrightshire.

I've not checked for possible marriages yet.

Owen and Margaret are in Troqueer (Maxwelltown)  in 1871.


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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 22:44 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Ruskie on Tuesday 26 May 09 07:10 UTC (UK)
Or perhaps they died?

I couldn't see any obvious Lynch's b Kelton in 1861. Owen is not with Margaret in 1861 either although it doesn't say Margaret is a widow.

Do you know when Owen died? I originally thought that Owen and the two boys may be away working somewhere, but I can't locate them ... or perhaps as you say, they may have migrated.

The surname Lynch may have been misspelled.  Undecided

To my knowledge at this stage the two of them are not coming up as being deceased in Scotland (still a bit of work in progress researching this avenue) and I have picked Owen and Margaret up later in the Census in Maxwelltown (a few other members of the family have ended up there as well).

In regards to the spelling of Lynch you are correct in that the alternative spelling I have found to date in Linch

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Owen and Margaret Lynch  Kirkcudbright, Scotland 1841
Owen Lynch born Caven Ireland 1811
Margaret Stewart born Meath Ireland 1809
Edward Lynch arrived Australia in 1856 from Scotland
Patrick Joseph Ryan Gallway Ireland 1856
Mary Agnes Brady County Sligo Ireland 1859
William Wales Cockermouth, Cumbria England 1800
Eliza Hynes Ireland 1811
George Henry Sykes England 1857

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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 23:00 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Tuesday 26 May 09 08:02 UTC (UK)
I've checked for deaths in Scotland (after 1854) but nothing obvious and I've also checked the 1880 US census and the 1881 Canadian census. Again, nothing.

Owen and Margaret are in Troqueer (Maxwelltown)  in 1871.

Gadget

Thanks for your thoughts Gadget.

I started looking towards the States and Canada when I could not locate the pair of them in Scotland. My logic being they would not head back to Ireland because around that time families were trying to get away from Ireland and the hardships and famine, etc. Being Irish they were unlikely to move below the border down into England - again for lots of different reasons. To my knowledge they did not follow their brother out to Australia - 99% sure on this one.

I am currently reading a book on Scottish Ancestry by Sherry Irvine (2003) in which she states on page 2 "between 1820 and 1900, 365 000 Scots emigrated to the USA and 250 00 to Canada". This is one of the reasons I am starting to look in this direction as the numbers going in this direction would make it easy to move with the flow out of Scotland. In addition, going to Australia would have been a big deal back in those times as the boats mainly left from the south of England - Their brother went out of London. So that would have been a trip in its own right to reach London.

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Owen and Margaret Lynch  Kirkcudbright, Scotland 1841
Owen Lynch born Caven Ireland 1811
Margaret Stewart born Meath Ireland 1809
Edward Lynch arrived Australia in 1856 from Scotland
Patrick Joseph Ryan Gallway Ireland 1856
Mary Agnes Brady County Sligo Ireland 1859
William Wales Cockermouth, Cumbria England 1800
Eliza Hynes Ireland 1811
George Henry Sykes England 1857

This Information is Crown Copyright from, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.bdm.nsw.
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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 May 09 22:15 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for your assistance, I will close this thread off now
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Owen and Margaret Lynch  Kirkcudbright, Scotland 1841
Owen Lynch born Caven Ireland 1811
Margaret Stewart born Meath Ireland 1809
Edward Lynch arrived Australia in 1856 from Scotland
Patrick Joseph Ryan Gallway Ireland 1856
Mary Agnes Brady County Sligo Ireland 1859
William Wales Cockermouth, Cumbria England 1800
Eliza Hynes Ireland 1811
George Henry Sykes England 1857

This Information is Crown Copyright from, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.bdm.nsw.
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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851 - Closed
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 May 09 10:19 UTC (UK) »
This could possibly be James in 18711861 but cannot find him after that.
1861Castle Douglas   Kirkcudbrightshire 
Kelton; ED: 3; Page:  8;
Jennet Cowan 70 
Jane Kelly 22 
Robert Gordon 11 
Elizabeth Barry 8 
Janes Murray 2 
James Linch 21  b Kelton  Ag Lab  boarder

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Mariac

edited to change year of census
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Re: Advice sought on missing Lynch brothers after 1851 - Closed
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 May 09 12:00 UTC (UK) »
Hi mariac  Smiley

Is he definitely aged 21 bacause James was 10 in 1851 so he should be 30-ish.


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