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Topic: Marsh Family Austonley Upper Thong and Cartworth (Read 618 times)
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Annied22
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I bought an old dictionary yesterday. It was published in 1823 and in 1831 was owned by John and Hannah Marsh. The front endpapers and the back of the frontispiece have been used by their son Joshua to record the births of his children.
Joshua Marsh son of John and Hannah Marsh was born July 23rd 1823 at Flushes in the Township of Austonley.
Mary Crossland the daughter of George and Ruth Crossland was born August 14th 1829 at Holmbridge in Township of Austonley.
Ann Marsh the daughter of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born Springlane Mill in the Township of Upper Thong January 28th 1852 and departed this world the same ?
Hugh Marsh, the son of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born at Bottoms in the Township of Upper Thong November 28th 1852
Rose Anna Marsh the daughter of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born at Bottoms in the Township of Upper Thong July 28th 1854
Eliza Marsh the daughter of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born July 27th 1856 in the Township of Upper Thong Victoria
Crossland Marsh, the son of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born March 3rd 1858 at Dyson's Hill in the Township of Cartworth
John William Marsh the son of Joshua and Mary Marsh was born February 1st 1862 at Dyson's Mill in the Township of Cartworth
Joseph Crossland Marsh son of J & M Marsh born July 27th 1865 at Dyson's Mill in the Township of Cartworth
George A Marsh son of J & M Marsh born August 1st 1868 at Dyson's Mill in the Township of Cartworth.
There's also mention of Joseph Mellor, son of Betty Mellor, born March 4th 1841
After the name of Hannah Marsh there's a word that looks like "Flaushouse", but googling it hasn't produced anything. Does it mean anything to anyone here?
At the moment the book has no boards and the pages are detached from the rest of the book so would be quite easy to scan or photograph if anyone here is related to the family and would like copies. (I'm a hobby bookbinder, so in due course, I'll be reattaching the pages and rebinding the book.)
Ann
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libby9
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There's a place called Flush House at Holme nr Holmfirth.
Your offer is most kind, I wish the Marsh's were my ancestors.
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Annied22
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That would tie in with Joshua being born in Flushes, so I think you're right. I've also got a 2 volume 1805 edition of "The Traveller's Guide", and out of curiosity I looked all the placenames up in that, but not one of them is mentioned.
I found the book at Barter Books in Alnwick, a fair way from its original home. Makes you wonder what happened to it after it left the Marsh Family.
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Annied22
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I had a look and they already have some details of a Marsh Family. There's a Mary, born in 1845 in Upper Thong who married a Joseph Marsh. Although they don't match any of the entries in my book, there may well be a connection.
I've now repaired and got some nice sharp shots of the pages, so I'll send them to the website.
Researching family history is so popular now that it seems such a shame to stumble across something like this and not share it.
Edited to add that I've now searched high and low on the page and while I can find an invitation to contact the webmaster, I can't find a link to an email addie for him/her.
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drodgers34
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Thanks very much for that, its just the kind of miscellany I hope to incorporate in my site.
Currently I only have extensive gedcom (family linked database) info for Holme but its very close and the surnames are common in my study.
When I have incorporated it with appropriate links I will post a lnk here.
The latest info I can find on Ancestry is the 1901 census where Son George (32) is Inkeeper at the dog and partridge Inn. Hinchliffe Mill. Living with wife Annie, Mother Mary and Sons Fred (4) Hubert (2) and unnamed (1 week).
I seem to remember the Dog and Partridge was recently called the Eareknucle Boys.
If anyone would like to contribute any miscellany regarding the Holee Valley please do, either here, by email or on www.werelate.org/wiki/HolmeVillageHome
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Annied22
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Glad to know it's of interest. I can send high resolution copies for printing off if needs be.
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HiltonLee
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It's refreshing to find such a record in other than a family bible, for a change.
Thanks for getting in touch Ann.
Thanks for putting Ann in touch Dobby. ..happy hoppy
cheers, Geoffrey
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wrc35a
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Very interested to see this posting.
First of all, as a native of Holmbridge, I can confirm that the local pronunciation of Flushhouse is "Flushes" (as near as makes no difference). I would be happy to locate all the various other places mentioned in the list of births - they are all familiar to me and are still in use today, with the exception of Dyson's Mill which was, I think, later known as Perseverance Mills and is located at Victoria between Holmfirth and Hinchliffe Mill, a mere stone's throw from Bottoms.
I am researching my Barnes ancestors. My 2G grandfather, William Barnes (b 1825 in Hayfield Derbyshire), married Mary Crosland (b 1826 in Holmbridge) in 1848. Mary was the daughter of Dan Crosland (sometimes Crossland) b about 1783 in Hepworth. She died a widow in Hinchliffe Mill in 1865 and the informant of her death was a Joshua Marsh of Dyson Mill Cartworth (see above). I have been trying to discover what connection, if any, there was between the Barnes/Crosland family and Joshua Marsh. I had reason to believe that Joshua Marsh married a Mary Cros(s)land (presumably a different one from my 2G grandmother!) in Sep Q 1851 though have not yet traced them through the parish records or bought a certificate. I had also calculated that my Joshua Marsh was born in 1823 (backdating from the only death of that name age 72 in 1895). It therefore certainly looks as though my Joshua Marsh is the same one as in your original posting.
It seems increasingly likely that the Crosland (Crossland) link is indeed the answer. Perhaps Dan and George Cros(s)land are brothers? I shall pursue this line of enquiry. It would be very good to fit your Croslands in with mine to confirm it.
Other possible dates of relevance are:
Death of Joshua Marsh Sep Q 1895 age 72 and death of Mary Marsh March Q 1907 age 77.
Robert
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Annied22
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That'll make my day if the info from my dictionary has actually helped your research! Let me know if you'd like me to email you pics of the entries.
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