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Topic: 1841 & 1851 census look up - Reeves & Pember families (Read 563 times)
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karenlee
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This looks promising
1881 Census England Herefordshire Leominster
RG11/2604/64/4
18 Corn Square
In the household of Thomas LLOYD, master currier and his wife Harriet, nieces Elizabeth and Catherine BRACE,
STAREE Sophia Boarder Unmarr 49 London St Giles
There is a death registered in Leominster in 1908 for a Sophia Ellen STAIRE aged 75. This might be yours given that she was in Leominster in 1881. Now all we have to do is find her on the 1901 and the 1891.
Karenlee
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karenlee
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Okay, this is tying it up nicely now :-
1871, 1891 and 1901 Census sees Sophia still with Thomas and Harriet LLOYD in Leominster.
So many of William and Jane STARIE's children did not marry, especially the girls. I have found them on many of the later Census. Did you want any more information on any of them?
Karenlee
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AMBLY
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Hi Liz
from the REEVES side.....
Here is sister Marion REEVES - I am pretty sure - in 1861. Living with the other sister Jane, now married, who was the 20 year old (rounded age?) named in 1841.
1861: Greenwich St Alphege, Greenwich East, Kent
Ref:RG9/ Piece 402- Folio 129- Pg22
Address: 7 Woodlands Terrace
Head: Thomas P BAILEY 40, Leather Merchant, b London, Middlesex
Wife: Jane BAILEY 35, b Lambeth Surrey
Dau: Jane M BAILEY 13, Scholar, b London, Middlesex
Dau: Fanny M BAILEY 11, Scholar, b London, Middlesex
Dau: Ellen H BAILEY 9, Scholar, b London, Middlesex
Son: Thomas R BAILEY 7, Scholar, b London, Middlesex
Dau: Florence R? BAILEY 4, b Greenwich Kent
Wife's Sister: Marion REEVES 30, unm, Annuitant, b Lambeth Surrey
Servant: Sarah A LUCKWELL 22, unm, Nurse, b Sydenham, Kent
Servant: Ann JONES 33, marr, Cook, b Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Servant: Susan LEE----SEY? 25, unm, Housemaid, b Coggeshall, Essex
MARRIAGE: Thomas Peter BAILEY and Jane REEVES - Sep Qtr 1846, RD: Kingston (Surrey)
I can't seem to locate the BAILEY family in 1851 (Should be Middlesex going by the children's POB's) but here they are in 1871:
1871: Greenwich East, Kent
Ref: RG10;/Piece 760- Folio 28;-Pg5
Address: 7 Woodlands Terrace
Head: Thomas P BAILEY 56, Leather Merchant, b City of London
Wife: Jane BAILEY 51, b Kennington Surrey
Dau: Jane M BAILEY 23, unm, b City of London
Dau: Fanny M BAILEY 21, unm, b City of London
Dau: Ellen H BAILEY 19, unm, b City of London
Son: Thomas R BAILEY 17, unm, Merchant's Clerk, b City of London
Dau: Florence E BAILEY 14, Scholar, b Blackheath, Kent
Visitor: Frederick MANSON 27, unm, General Practioner LSA MRCSE, b Rochester Kent
Servant: Mary BAILEY 24, unm, Domestic Servant Cook, b Middlesex London
Servant: Elizabeth POLLEY 22, unm, Cook Housemaid, b Billericary, Essex
Servant: Annie C JENNINGS 24, unm, Needlewoman, b Windsor, Berkshire
DEATH: Dec Qtr 1876 - RD: Greenwich (Kent) - Thomas Peter BAILEY age 62
I can't seem to find Jane in 1881. I think she may have died too:]
DEATH: Dec Qtr 1874, RD: Greenwich (Kent) - Jane BAILEY age 55
Their youngest daughter - was actually Florence Butterworth BAILEY.
She married Ernest Newton WIX in Mar Qtr 1877, RD: Ticehurst (Kent/Sussex) and here they are in 1881 - with her sister in the house:
1881: Walcot, Bath, Somerset
Ref: RG11/ Piece 2437- Folio 117- Pg10
Address: 7 Belmont
Head: Ernest N WIX 29, Inspector of Schools, b Gratham? Surrey
Wife: Florence B WIX 24, b Greenwich Kent
Dau: Margaret A WIX 3, Scholar, b Bath, Somerset
Dau: Dorothy M WIX 1, b Bath Somerset
SisterInLaw: Fanny M BAILEY 31, unm, Annuitant, b London Middlesex
Servant: Elizabeth D BOWDEN 19, unm, Domestic Servant, b Bath Somerset
Servant; Ada M POWELL 20?, unm, Domestic Servant, b Bath Somerset
Servant: Catherine WILLIAMS 24, unm, unm, Domestic Nurse , b Bath Somerset
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Hi again Liz
Here is Emma in 1861 - a widow as expected as you say her husband Richard Valentine TURNER died 1860. Looks like they did have two children. She is at 24 Grafton Square - her maiden Sisters were at Nr 10 in same census and at Nr 17 in 1871!
1861: Clapham Surrey
Ref: RG9/ Piece 368- Folio158- Pg 31
Address: 24 Grafton Square
Head: Emma TURNER 46, widow, Fundholder. b Lambeth Surrey
Dau: Emma J TURNER 15, Scholar, b Lambeth Surrey
Son: William R E TURNER 9, Scholar, b Lambeth Surrey
Sister: Elizabeth ARMITAGE 44, widow, Fundholder, b Lambeth Surrey
Neice: Edith ARMITAGE 7, b Hythe Kent
Servant: Elizabeth ASHLEY 26, unm, House Servant, b Maldon Essex
Servant: Ann MILLER 20, unm, House Servant, b Felthorpe Norfolk
Elizabeth could be a sister in law maybe? Not had her come up as REEVES sibling before? did we? 
But - going back, here are the TURNERS in 1851:
1851: Kennington First, Lambeth, Surrey
Ref: HO107/ Piece 1573 - Folio 335- Pg 36
Address: 9 Dorset Terrace
Head: Richard V TURNER 42, Stock & Share Broker, b Lambeth Surrey
Wife: Emma TURNER 36, b Kennington Surrey
Dau: Emma Jane TURNER 5 & half years, b Clapham Road
Serv: Caroline WOOD 27, unm, Serv Cook, b Kingston Surrey
Serv: Fanny BEALE 23, unm, Serv, b Clapham Surrey
BIRTHS: children - probable:
Emma Jane TURNER - Lambeth - Sep Qtr 1845
William Richard Eaton TURNER - Lambeth - Jun Qtr 1852
And here is Emma and son in 1871 - visiting her brother Herbert! I must say this family must have known you'd be looking all these years later - all very nicely visiting each other thru the years!
1871: Mortlake, Surrey
Ref: RG10/ Piece 870- Folio 57- Pg 22
Address Fernbank, East Sheen
Head: Herbert W REEVES 43, Solicitor, b Lambeth Surrey
Wife: Elizabeth REEVES 27, b Chelsea, Middlesex
Son: Herbert K REEVES 5, b Richmond Surrey
Son: Hugh W REEVES 4, b Mortlake Surrey
Dau: Emily B REEVES 3, b Mortlake Surrey
Son: Edward REEVES 2, b Mortlake Surrey
Visitor: Emma TURNER 56, wid, b Lambeth Surrey
Visitor: William R TURNER 19, unm, Articled Clerk & Solicitor, b Lambeth Surrey
Servant; Hannah ALGAR 34, unm, b Teb?ling, Essex,
Servant: Eliza POWTER 40, unm, b Ware, Herts
Servant: Harriet C GREEN 23, unm, b Ware, Herts
Servant: Maria L NOBLE 30 unm, b Putney Surrey
Servant: Isabel PIMBLE 10, b Halling, Kent
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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tee hee  Liz, I didn't even need to look to see you were in NZ after you said that - I had to fly out the door too, to pick up mine from school - and I was equally gnashing teeth, because I'd just managed to ID the TURNER son in 1891 and 1901, seems he became an Author...........
OK, so kids have a snack and are watching Sticky TV on 3 - so am writng them up now for you
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Hi again Liz
Regarding the TURNER's
I can find the son of Richard V TURNER and Emma REEVES :-- William Richard Eaton TURNER - in 1881, 1891 and 1901.....he seems quite intriguing!
MARRIAGE: Sep Qtr 1879 - RD: Newton Abbot (Devon)
William Richard E TURNER and Edith Helen ATKINSON
1881: Battersea, Ward 4, London
Ref:RG11/ Piece 645-Folio 94- Pg16
Address: 1 Sisters Terrace, Lavender Hill
Head: William Rich'd Eaton TURNER 29, Solicitor, b Clapham Surrey
Wife: Edith H E TURNER 20, b Ives Bucks
Son: Richard M A E TURNER, 6 months, b Battersea Surrey
Serv: Elizabeth M J DODERIDGE23, unm, Nurse, b Newton Abbot, Devon
Serv: Ellen DIBBLES 21, unm, Cook, b Stogember?? Somerset
Serv: Eliza Prowse READSTONE 17, unm, Housemaid, b Bideford, Devon
1891: Wimbledon, Surrey
Ref: RG12/ Piece 604- Folio 119- Pg 63;
Address: 13 Walpole Rd
Head: William EATON TURNER 39, Author, b Clapham, Surrey
Wife: Edith EATON TURNER 30, b Ivor, Bucks
Son: Richard EATON TURNER 10, Scholar, b Lavender Hill, Surrey
Son: Godfrey EATON TURNER 9, Scholar, b Lavender Hill, Surrey
Serv: Caroline PITKIN 51, wid? marr?*, Domestic House Keeper, b Chesham, Bucks
Visitor: Carrie A PITKIN 12, School Girl, b Chesham Bucks
* Mark thru Caroline's marital status, cannot make out - but don't think it's single.
1901: Bedford St Paul, (Bedford & Kempston), Bedfordshire
Ref: RG13/ Piece 1489- Folio151- Pg 6
Address: 58 Adelaide Square
Head: William R E TURNER 49, Author (works on own account, at home), b Clapham Surrey
Wife: Edith H E TURNER 40, b Ivor Bucks
Son: Richard M A E TURNER 20, b Lavender Hill, Surrey
Nephew: Raymond F M ATKINSON 12, b Bedford Park, Middlesex
Servant: Elizabeth M SINFIELD 14, General Domestic Servant, b Bedford, Beds
The way these Census are written, - with Eaton written in full before Turner for each of them in 1891 and E before Turner for each of them in 1881, 1901 - makes me think they were "double-barrelling" the suname as EATON TURNER in their daily lives! On the Census is is all written in Title Case, so can't be sure if I'm right ot not!
So much for you to work with! You lucky thing If after you've compared notes you need any more of these REEVES and their etc's looked up specifically, just shout out!
Cheers
AMBLY
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sjt
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I rather think I'm one of the great-great grand-children of Richard Valentine Turner (the one area of doubt being that RMAE Turner's (my grandfather) brother was Geoffrey, not Godfrey but can imagine it's quite difficult to read census results sometimes).
If it's any help to your research though, an elderly cousin (around her 70s in the late 1960s) called Sybil Reeves would occasionally visit us as children, although I know little about her apart from the fact that she was unmarried. My siblings and I have a Victorian Noah's ark (presumably a Reeves family one) that is enscribed to us from her. She was apparently rather fearsome.
Also, Geoffrey fell in love with one of his New Zealand cousins in the 1930s/1940s. However, I think Helen's maiden name was Atkinson, so might not be relevant.
In any case, my family has been very interested by the census results, so just wanted to pass on my thanks.
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mikec62
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Hi Liz,
I'm Mike Cole and I found your chat. I also noticed I was referenced! (very flattering). I wanted to mention a couple of corrections though. The sources of the information quoted were not "non conformist register for surry". They were from pages of a family bible. The other item was Ernest Starie's middle name wasn't Pember, it was Ponder. Ernest was my great grandfather. My Mum's maiden name is Starie. I have some additional information on the Pember family, but you might have it already, but I would be interested in any information that you might have. I also have Starie information you might be interested in. I only have a 14 day trial membership to this site, but if would like to contact me my email is mikec at quicklinks.on.ca. Perhaps I could get your email and I will send you the other information that I mentioned.
Take care,
Mike
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