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badon
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I am Ian Hamilton, and I am tracing roots back through my family which includes Hamilton,Grieve,Cairns, and Corrie. Cairns is OK, but Corrie ends up in Kelton with the census of 1871 of Helen Corrie and her son James Corrie aged 19 at that time living in St Andrews Street. My father was called James Corrie Hamilton - hence the Corrie name from his mother. My middle name is Badon, but I don't know why as it is unusually spelt.
Any Help??
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akc
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What was Helen,s name before she married?
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Dumfriesshire: Bell, Kerr, Dickson, Hetherington
Orkney: Cursiter, Peace, Drever, Cooper, Paterson, Brock, Leslie, Malcomson
Cumberland: Charlton, Young
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Gadget
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Hi Ian and Welcome to Rootschat 
I see on the 1871 that Helen was b. Kirkpatrick (could be Kirkpatrick Fleming or Durham ) and James was b. Parton.
I'll see if I can find anything about them for you.
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Gadget
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I think that I've found Helen's death cert - 2nd April 1892. Castle Douglas, Kelton Aged 79.
She was the widow of John Corrie, blacksmith. Her parents were - John McCartney, farmer and Sophia, maiden surname, Wilson. Both deceased.
Son James Corrie was the informant.
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Gadget
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In 1851, before James's birth:
Knock Vennie, Parton
878 ED 3 Page 18
Corrie
John, 41, blacksmith, b. Parton
Helen, 37, b. Kirkpatrick Durham
John, 10
Agnes, 8
Nathaniel, 7
Sophia, 5
all children b. Parton
I have the Parton MIs and will see if I can find anything on John. I also have the Kirkparick Durham MIs and will check for the McCartneys
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Gadget
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There is submitted entry on the IGI for the baptism of John Corrie, 18 Dec 1809, Parton.
Father - Nathaniel Corrie
This is confirmed in the OPRs on SP.
If Helen and John married in Parton, they might not show up as some of the 1820-30s entries are missing (my grt grt grandparents married there circa 1830 and the session clerk told me that the records had been lost).
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Gadget
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Hel(l)en's bpt is recorded in Kirkpatrick Durham on 12 Dec 1813. Parents as stated on death cert - John McCartney and Sophia Wilson
The following children of John Corrie and Hellen McCartney are shown as baptised in Parton:
10 Sept 1839 Janet
1 Nov 1840 John
Not sure about the others listed on the 1851 - possibly missing registers or baptised elsewhere/none C of Scotland.
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Gadget
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It looks very much as if John Corrie's mother was a Janet:
1841
Smithy Croft, Parton
878 Ed 3 P 6
Corrie
Nathaniel, 75, Blacksmith
Janet, 70
Miller
James, 13
Jane, 10
Grizel, 7
Nathaniel, 20, blacksmith
on the previous page (5) , same address:
Corrie
John, 30, blacksmith
Helen, 25
John, 7 months
David Haugh, 15, apprentice smith
All b. Kirkcudbrightshire .
Unfortunately, no relationships were given on the 1841 and ages 15 and over were rounded down to the nearest 5 year age grouping.
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Gadget
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I'm starting to get very interested in your family now - my ancestors would have known them as they lived in the same parish and they probably shod my 3 x grtgrandfather's horses
Also, in a letter he wrote in the 1830s, my 3x mentioned a John Curry/Corry - he wasn't very good at spelling so it might possibly have been yours 
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Gadget
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I've not found any direct MIs for the Corries in Parton but the Kirkpatrick Durham MIs have a whole lot of McCartneys, including this one of Hellen's parents and which might be relevant to your middle name:
John McCartney d 8 Sept 1860. Aged 73.
In Memory of wife Sophia Wilson, d. Kirklandhill 18 May 1843, aged 50...............
son James d. Castle Douglas 14 Dec 1872, aged 57 (his wife Susan Bodden d. Castle Douglas 28 March 1920, aged 72)
I'm still reading through the McCartney entries - there are many!
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Gadget
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Found Nathaniel Corrie in Kirkpatrick Durham. It will take me a while to transcribe. The Corrie's seem to have lived K Durham, Parton and other parishes - John Corrie and Helen McCartney are mentioned.
You're in luck!
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This is one headstone in Kirkpatrick Durham graveyard. It's engraved back and front:
Nathaniel Corrie d. 12 April 1847, aged 82.
In Memory of children who died Glenlair:
John 31 May 1808, aged 16
Jean d. 31 Dec 1814, aged 11
Agnes d. 9 April 1811, aged 4
Nathaniel d. 3 July 1826, aged 25
Wife Jannet Clingan d. 31 Jan 1847, aged 77
Daughter Grisel d. 10 January 1850, aged 44
Also on the back:
In Memory of
John Corrie, d. 10 Nov 1857,aged 47
children:
Janet, Grace & Margaret who died in infancy
John d . 8 June 1860, aged 19
Nathan d. 17 Aug 1863, aged 19
Sophia d. 19 Aug 1866, aged 20
His wife Hellen McCartney d. 2. April 1892, aged 78
daughter Agnes d. KD, 12 Dec 1914, aged 73
son James Corrie b. 29 Jan 1852 - d. 28 Nov 1918.
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(anyone there or am I talking to myself )
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Gadget
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Hi Nick
what part of Scotland do your ancestors come from - added - just looked at your list!
I've still got some more - I hope this is what Ian wanted 
John McCartney and Sophia Wilson married Kirkpatrick Durham in April 1812. It looks as if Hellen might have been their first child. If they used the traditional naming conventions, then Sophia's mother might well have been a Hellen.
On the 1841 (Kirkland Hill, Kirkpatrick Durham), she is listed as being born Kirkcudbrightshire 1791-1796 but I've not found a bpt record for her so far.
Summary to date:
James Corrie's parents apppear to be John Corrie and Hellen McCartney
John Corrie's parents - Nathaniel Corrie and Jannet Clingan
Hellen McCartney's parents - John McCartney and Sophia Wilson
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