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liscoole
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Hi
I have discovered that my original Magee/ McGee family came from East Tyrone (Cookstown, Dungannon, Stewartstown area). I think I can trace it back to the marriage of Arthur Magee/McGee in 1857 to Maria Hobbson in Donaghenry Church of Ireland.
This is where the trail goes cold. I have tried to find the baptism of Arthur's son Benjamin in the same church (1858) but to no avail. (I was looking at the microfilm in PRONI but it was so faint it was practically illegible)
Can anyone suggest a way to break down this brick wall? Is Donaghenry Church still existing today? Can anyone suggest any other resources to try?
Many thanks Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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liscoole
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Hello
Can anyone help with this please?
thanks Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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akanex2
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I believe this church is now part of the grouped Parish of Brackaville, Donaghenry and Ballyclog within the Church of Ireland.
This was the contact address for the Rector in 2006:- The Revd K.R.J. Hall Holy Trinity Rectory 82 Dungannon Road Coalisland Co. Tyrone BT71 4HT
The church graveyard is included in the History from Headstones datatbase on AncestryIreland.com and some parish papers dating back to 1780 are in the Armagh Diocesan Archive in PRONI.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
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liscoole
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Thanks so much Akanex
I did write to the rector a couple of weeks ago, no joy there unfortunately. And I have checked history from headstones.
All that's left is to try and get to PRONI.
thanks for your help Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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liscoole
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I went to PRONI and finally found the baptism record of my great great grandfather Benjamin Magee! He was baptised at Ardtrea Church of Ireland on 4th May 1859, date of birth 22 October 1858, son of Arthur Magee and Maria Hobbson. They lived in Dufless, Artrea parish, which is just on the border of Londonderry.
Thrilled as I am to find this, it opens up yet another problem. Arthur and Maria's deaths are NOWHERE to be found! I have even had GRONI do a search for Arthur, which brought up nothing!
I did find Arthur in Lennon Wylie in 1877 living in 4 Arkwright St in Belfast, but dont know whether Maria was still alive at that time, or if she died in Tyrone, and then the family moved up to Belfast. Family search does not seem to have any entries to match Arthur or Maria's death.
Seems as if they just vanished off the face of the earth!
Would be grateful for any ideas!
thanks Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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Sybilla
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To Liscoole
I am looking for a Margaret Magee or McGee who married William Falls in Moy Dungannon in Jan 1846. Two sons were born in Baltimore USA. Wm James Falls in 1854 and Robert Charles Freamont Falls in 1858. These two came to Australia in 1876. Their parents and younger siblings were on a ship that disappeared.
I saw your ref to Magees and wonder if there is a connection. Sybilla
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liscoole
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Hi Sybilla
thanks so much for your message!
Do you know what Margaret's father's name was, and have you any more precise info about Margaret's marriage? Do you have the marriage certificate?
This would help us narrow things down a bit and see if there is a connection. There are so many Magee's / McGee's in that area that it is a difficult name to research.
Looking forward to hearing from you
best wishes Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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Sybilla
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All we know is that Margaret Magee married William James Falls in Jan 1846 at Dungannon Moy. Two sons William James and Robert Charles Freamont Falls were born in Baltimore USA in 1854 and 1858. The ship the parents and younger siblings were on disappeared at sea. The two boys had been offloaded to another ship. They arr in Australia in 1876. I'm new at this. Please overlook if you have recd this twice. Sybilla
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liscoole
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Hi Sybilla
Thanks for your message. The reason why I ask if you have the marriage certificate is that if you do, you will be able to make much more headway with your research.
As the marriage took place in 1846, it is possible that it was registered in the civil index and if so, you would be able to apply for a copy of it.
This would then tell you much more info- the couples' fathers' names, where they lived, their occupations and also probably age at time of marriage.
Unfortunately without any more info, I cannot tell if you are connected to my Magees.
However, if you are able to get the marriage certificate, perhaps we can move forward.
Best wishes Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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scotmum
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Hello Sybilla
brsgenealogy for Tyrone have one William Falls marriage entry for Tyrone in 1846.........no middle name is noted on the index, so may or may not be your chap. Transcript with more details is pay to view. A search on Margaret Magee also brings up one marriage in 1846, and like the William Falls entry, it is noted as a Civil Marriage rather than a Church Marriage. These two returns would make me consider that they could be in respect of the marriage in question. You can run the search for yourself by registering (free) at:
http://tyronefermanagh.brsgenealogy.com
Civil Reg index also has a William Falls marriage at:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07kq/
albeit unfortunately I cannot see a corresponding marriage entry for a Margaret Magee.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI). HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI). CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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scotmum
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Sybilla, as Aghadowey has pointed out, another rootschatter has added the civil index marriage for William Falls 1846 to your own post. They have also found a corresponding Margaret Magee (albeit with spelling McGeah). Considering this and the brsgenealogy returns, it seems a strong possibility for your couple. As has been said on the other thread, you can order a Certificate via GROIE or GRONI or as noted above, a transcript can be purchased and viewed immediately onscreen at the brs website, so you have a number of options.
Lis, is the McGeah spelling one you have considered before? If not, gives you more food for thought for your own lines.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI). HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI). CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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shanew147
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the spelling for Margaret's surname in the civil index is : McGeagh
Shane
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liscoole
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Thank you Scot, Shane and Aghadowey.
Sybilla, If you have any further questions about how to get more info using these index references or how to order a cert online, please just let us know
Best wishes liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
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