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Topic: Tipperary: Give a man a named grave? (Read 653 times)
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MelPack
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I was wondering if anyone could help me on this one.
Martin Connors, born at Nenagh to Jeremiah and Maria Collins on 27 Sep 1889, was killed in action whilst serving with the 182nd Machine Gun Company (service no: 14236) on 19 July 1916 in the ill fated attack at Fromelles. His body was never recovered but there is a high probability that his remains are amongst those being currently excavated in the mass burial pits at Fromelles.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6221422.ece
I am part of a group of researchers based around the Great War Forum:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=122825
Our objective is to establish contact with as many relatives of the missing soldiers as possible to encourage them to participate in the MoD/ CWGC DNA testing programme:
http://www.cwgc.org/fromelles/
Martin appears on the list of the soldiers who were killed on 19 July 1916 at Fromelles and has no known grave so there is a possibility that he could be among those buried in the pits.
we would love to establish a link with living descendants of Martin so that they may participate in the DNA testing programme:
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/RecoveryOfFromellesWwiDeadBegins.htm
I am aware that Martin came from a substantial local family. His father, Jeremiah, was the local postman and was certainly residing at 14 St. John's Terrace in the 1920s.
Any help that you can extend would be much appreciated.
Regards
Mel
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enfield
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From the 'Tipperary War Dead'
CONNORS, MARTIN. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment or Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry). Unit; 182nd Coy. Age at Death: 30. Date of Death: 20-07-1916. Service No: 14236. He was formerly with the Liverpool Regiment where his number was 34775. Born Nenagh and enlisted in Nenagh. Killed in Action. Supplementary information; Son of Jeremiah and Maria Connors, of 14, St. John's Terrace, Nenagh, Tipperary. Grave or Memorial Reference: Has no known grave but is commemorated on Panel 136. Memorial; Loos Memorial in France.
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MelPack
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enfield
Many thanks for that extract - unfortunately, it doesn't take things much further because it is a conflation of information from the SDGW and CWGC.
Anything else that you manage to turn up would be welcome.
Mel
Ps Thanks also to scrimmet for the links
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enfield
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hello Mel.
What are RC'ers?
Regards.,
Tom.
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enfield
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Hello again.
I have passed the information on to Tippfm. They have a great listenership (Including me) and should have the answer for you rapidly after broadcasting.
Kind regards.
Tom.
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MelPack
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Tom
You are a magician!
Your help is much appreciated.
Mel
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enfield
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As you are interested in Festubert here are some other Irishmen that might be connected.
McEWAN, PATRICK. Rank: Pte. Regiment or Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders).
Unit; 2nd Battalion. Date of Death:04-November-1914. Service No:2017. Born in Clara, King’s County. Enlisted in Perth. Killed in Action.
King’s County Chronicle, January, 1915.
Washed out trenches.
In these latter weeks, says the Special Correcpondant of the ‘Times’ in Northern France, no infantry movement has been possible beyond sniping. The incessant rains have converted the trenches into a quagmire. Both sides are at a stand in the mud. By constant purrping, life in the trenches is tolerable. Outside the men sink to their knees. In such conditions an assault on a trench, even across the narrow space which separates them, is impossible. A tributary of the little Lounne flooded one of our trenches north of Festubert, and two men were drowned. During a storm the parapets of one of our trenches and one of the Germans were washed away. Friend and foe set to work to repair in full view of each other, as only 60 yards separates them, but not a shot was fired. Getting into and out of the trenches at night is dangerous. Wooden causeways have been constructed from the billets to within a quarter of a mile of the entrance to the trenches. But that quarter of a mile has sometimes taken two hours to traverse.
Grave or Memorial Reference:VII.H.9. Cemetery: Brown’s Road Military Cemetery, Festubert in France.
HEFFERNAN, WILLIAM PATRICK. Rank: Second Lieutenant. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit; 3rd Bn. Secondary Regiment: Gloucestershire Regiment Secondary. Unit; attd. 1st Bn. Age at Death: 28. Born in Killenaule 10-12-1885. Date of Death: 09-05-1915. Educated Dublin University (prize winner at boxing and running). Had been wounded at La Bassee February 1915, and was killed at Festubert leading his company. Supplementary information; Son of Dr. W. K. Heffernan, J. P, of Riverdale, Killenaule, Co. Tipperary, and of Mary Heslop, his wife. Two exhibitions in Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin. Volunteered for service at the outbreak of the war and joined the Gloucestershire Regiment in which he obtained a Commission as Second Lieutennant. Grave or Memorial Reference: Has no known grave but is commemorated on Panel 11 and 12. Memorial: Le Touret Memorial in France.
ACTON, (also listed as BALL-ACTON), CHARLES ANNESLEY. Rank: Major (T. P). Regiment or Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers. Unit; D Company, 9th Bn. Age at Death; 39. Killed in Action. Date of Death: 25-September-1915. Supplementary information; Of Kilmacurragh, Rathdrum. High Sheriff Co. Wicklow, 1913, and J. P. Served in Crete, 1898, and China Expedition, 1900. Second son of the late Col. Ball-Acton, C. B, and Mrs. Ball-Acton. Older brother of BALL-ACTON, REGINALD THOMAS ANNESLEY. Supplementary information from De Ruvigny’s Roll of Honour; Son of the late Col Charles Ball-Acton, C. B. , The King’s Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry), by his wife, Georgina Cecilia, 2nd dau, of George Annesley (Viscount Valentia Coll); grandson of Lieut-Col William Acton, of West Aston, Co Wicklow, J. P. , D. L. , M. P. ; brother to Majot R. T. A. Ball-Acton (q. v. );b, Peshawar, India, 14 Feb, 1876; educ, School House, Rugby; Oxford Military College, and the Royal Military College, Sandhurst; gazetted 2nd Lieut, 2nd Battalion. Royal Welsh Fusiliers, 5 Sept, 1896, and promoted Lieut, 16 Dec, 1898, and Capt, 31 Jan, 1906; served in Malta, Crete, Egypt, India, and in the China Campaign (Medal), being Staff Captain at Welhei-Wel14 April, 1900, to 2 June, 1901. He succeeded his uncle in the family estates 25 Aug, 1908, when he discarded the name of Ball. He retired from the Army the same year. On the outbreak of war, having offered his services to the War Office, he was gazetted captain in the Reserve of Officers, and rejoined his old regiment 7 Sept, 1914; promoted temp, Major 19 July, 1915; went to France the same day, a dn was killed in action near Givenchy the first day of the general advance, 25 Sept, 1915, while helping a wounded soldier. Buried at Festubert. He served as High Sherrif of Co Wicklow in 1913, and was J. P. for Co Wicklow. Grave or Memorial Reference: He has no known grave but is listed on Panel 50 to 52 on the Loos Memorial in France.
Enjoy.
Regards.
Tom Burnell
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enfield
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Mel.
Tippfm have now been in contact with me and they will run the story on their news slot until we get closure. What they will want from you is a link for the NOK to make contact.
Regards.
Tom (Research Curator, Thurles Famine and War Museum)
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MelPack
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Hello Tom
You are a media maestro!
I will drop you a PM with the details.
regards
Mel
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