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Topic: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell (Read 1079 times)
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libby9
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In 1891 Charlotte, her father, and siblings, were lodging with a family named Bottom. I wonder if they connect to Alice Bottom?
Hannah Bottom age 44, Emma Bottom age 21, James Bottom 19, Agnes Bottom 17, Norman Bottom 13
Annie Bottom 10, Samuel Bottom 5,
Geo Hy Netherwood 37, Annie Elizbeth Netherwood 6, Charlotte Netherwood 4, Emma Netherwood 2
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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libby9
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I think Robert Wilson Helliwell was originally from Saddleworth.
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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rob67
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sorry dissapeard last night Carole, my computer crashed, i see you found a lot of bottoms in 1 house hold, im sending off for Armytage birth this morning,hope we get it before weekend,
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rob67
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Got to say Carole, that does all tie in dosent it, Robert Charlotte etc lodging with this family,
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CaroleW
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Hi Rob
I think it looks a very good bet that the 1904 marriage found by Libby is that of his parents
When you get the birth cert - post details on this thread - don't open a new post - and we can take it from there
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rob67
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Like to say a big thank you to Libby too, so sorry was late last night didnt notice names had changed,
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« Last Edit: Wednesday 27 May 09 23:55 UTC (UK) by rob67 »
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rob67
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Hi ive just got some details regarding Armytage, he did have a brother called Jack who married Lucy m.s? no children
also another brother called William who married Hilda m.s no children
Armytage 2nd wife was called Edith Greenwood, born 6th june year unknown, family member trying to find more records around house?
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CaroleW
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Hi Rob
Let's wait until you get his birth cert so we can be 100% certain who his parents were and then we can go backwards from the 1901 census.
The 1911 census is the one that will show Armytage and possibly the odd sibling or 2 but although the index is free - you have to buy credits to view the transcription or the image
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CaroleW
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I have finally found him on the 1911 index - transcribed as
SORMYTAGE Halliwell aged 4
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rob67
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wow, real mispell of his name there, no wonder people are so hard to find,lol, does it still place him in Huddersfiled?
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CaroleW
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Yes it does - it also shows a Charlotte Halliwell b 1887 and a Robert b 1886 both living in Huddersfield
No Herbert Halliwell in Huddersfield so I think Libby's marriage is the right one
Go to http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?4
Just use surname Halliwell - nothing else
Under Location select Yorkshire West Riding
Under Residence - insert Huddersfield
Click Search
There are lots of Halliwells but you will see a Jack b 1908 and a Thomas Irvin b 1910
Thomas Irvin Hellawell June qtr 1909 Huddersfield
Volume: 9a Page: 276
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libby9
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Hi,
I found Sormytage yesterday, sorry I didn't post details but thought you were waiting for the birth cert for proof of parentage. I can say with almost certainty that Robert and Charlotte are his parents, and Jack aged 3 on the census is his brother, I don't think Thomas Irvin was living in the same household, therefore probably not his brother.
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libby9
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From what I can see Thomas Irvin's parents were Irvin, and Marion Ethel.
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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rob67
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Hi I should be getting Armytages birth cert any day now, whose should i apply for next do you think,
so Robert is from saddleworth, will it still be west riding,
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rob67
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just looking at that census were, charlotte and father looks like george, was lodging with the Bottoms, i see no father with that family, just Hannah and kids, do you think George and Hannah were more than lodging together,?
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