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libby9
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:09 UTC (UK) »

First, I'll do more searches.  We don't want to be tracing the wrong family.

Are you familiar with Huddersfield?  When I name areas do you know where they are?

I've found Dan Kilgannon on the census and he was living in Halifax Old Road, so no real clue there.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »

I dont but my partner does, as she was born and bred there. Tongue
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:12 UTC (UK) »

yeah Halifax old road is Bircen cliff,
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:14 UTC (UK) »

Great Rob, it helps if you understand the geography of the place you are researching.

I too, was born there.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:26 UTC (UK) »

Like i say Debbie does, im a smoggy from Middlesbrough lol, been to Huddersfield few times real nice place,
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:37 UTC (UK) »

So nice, neither me nor Debbie are still living there  Wink Grin

Actually it isn't bad, the surrounding countryside is beautiful, particularly the Holme Valley.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:40 UTC (UK) »

Aye, love the country side, didnt like the steep hills they built houses on though, Lips Sealed Debbies sisters all still living there,
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:49 UTC (UK) »

Charlotte's dad was dead when she got married.  Here's two possible deaths.

George Henry Netherwood, age 38, Jun qrt 1895, Huddersfield, vol 9a page 260

George Netherwood, age 44, Dec qrt 1898, Huddersfield, vol 9a page 238
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 11 June 09 23:52 UTC (UK) »

how do you know which one to go   Undecided for Libby
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #69 on: Friday 12 June 09 00:01 UTC (UK) »

The 1891 census has him born in 1854, but census ages are not always correct.  If I can find him on an earlier census we may get an idea of his age.

The 1898 death ties in with an 1854 birth, BUT George Henry ties in with his full name, however this one was born 1857.

The short answer is there's no definite way of knowing, sorry.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #70 on: Friday 12 June 09 00:24 UTC (UK) »

It's rather strange that I can't find births registered for the three Netherwood girls.  I've looked for both Netherwood and Brady for all three - zilch.

I searched outside the Huddersfield area as well, there were no Netherwood's within the timeframe for Charlotte, Annie or Emma, there are births for those first names surname BRADY but not in Hudd's.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #71 on: Friday 12 June 09 02:54 UTC (UK) »

looks like this is gonna be a toughy, Libby,if Robert is born in saddleworth ,do i apply at hudds for his birth, or would it be another office?
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #72 on: Friday 12 June 09 19:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rob,

I don't know whether Huddersfield Reg Office would have BMD's for Saddleworth as Saddleworth is now, for admin purposes, in the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham.  It used to be Hudd's district, but when the boundaries were changed back in the 1970's Saddleworth, although remaining in Yorkshire was no longer controlled from Wakefield (admin capital for West Yorks).  How confusing is that?  In view of the confusion I'd apply centrally to the GRO for Saddleworth cert's.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #73 on: Saturday 13 June 09 00:41 UTC (UK) »

looks like this is gonna be a toughy, Libby

Hi Rob,

It certainly is a toughie.  The Netherwoods' are doing my head in!   There's no births registered that I can find for any of the three children, which is odd.  I'm wondering if their parents weren't married, and therefore they were registered in their mother's name.  As they were living with only their father we have to assume their mother had died, maybe around the time Emma was born.  We know their father died before 1904, and probably either 1895 or 1898, if 1895 Charlotte would have been only 8 years old and too young to know her surname wasn't the same as her father's.  This is the only explanation I can come up with.

I have been unable to find either Charlotte or Emma on the 1901 census.  If their father had died before 1901 the children could have been in the workhouse (where sometimes inmates were enumerated by initials only).  I have a possible for Annie Elizabeth lodging in either (can't remember exactly)  Rastrick or Brighouse.
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Re: looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell
« Reply #74 on: Saturday 13 June 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Hiya Libby sorry have not been on since yesterday, reallythink Debbies family does not want to be found lol,
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