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Spidermonkey
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 15:07 UTC (UK) »

[incidently, it looks like there was a Thomas A Price (Green Lane, Staunton on Wye)aged 24, who sailed to Freemantle from Southampton on 28th May 1930 on the Hobsons Bay.  Is this one yours?]
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 15:20 UTC (UK) »

Yes, it is my great uncle Thomas! Thanks Spidermonkey.  Cheesy

Thomas must have been killed in 1930/31 then, as I'm led to believe he was only in Australia for a few months before his death. Thank you very much Spidermonkey.
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much for all the help you've given lizdb and Spidermonkey. It's greatly appreciated.  Smiley

I must admit Spidermonkey has really got me thinking about whether they even got married in the first place. Was it a common practice?

If Louisa had been previously married/widowed would George's birth certificate have mentioned maiden name and widow's surname? Sorry, I'm just thinking out aloud. I think I shall need to get hold of one of my great aunts birth certificates. If they state the same as granddad's then I can probably assume that they weren't officially married.

Thanks again for all your help!

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 15:25 UTC (UK) »

It always surprises me at how flexible society was in regard to marriage then, but if you were an ag lab with little money and very few holidays you didn't necessarily have the time or money to get married
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 31 May 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

3 of Louisa'a sisters are married at St Devereux but no sign of her there.
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 31 May 09 16:07 UTC (UK) »

Children of George Price and Louisa [nee Vale]
Susan Lucy 1896
Isabelle Annie 1899
George James 1901
Thomas A 1905
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #21 on: Monday 01 June 09 01:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Puffcat,

Thank you very much for all your help and searching.  Smiley

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #22 on: Friday 05 June 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

I didn't want to start a new thread and to be honest I wouldn't be sure of where to post it anyway! Instead I thought it was relevant enough to post in this thread.  Smiley

Next week I'm intending to pay a visit to the Herefordshire Archive Service in Harold Street. I have been to their website but I was hoping to clarify a few issues on here.

I've never been to an archive office before so I know I have to register for a ticket. Once I've registered will I be able to search the records and use the facilities or do I have to wait for a certain period?

Being a newbie at this has anyone got any advice to offer and is there anything in particular I need to be aware of? All suggestions will be gratefully received!  Grin

Best wishes,

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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #23 on: Friday 05 June 09 10:49 UTC (UK) »

I have never been to that particualar record office, but based on my visits to Sussex, Surrey and Essex here are some tips:

Have a good read of website first.

Sometimes it is a good idea to phone before you go to reserve a fiche/film reader - Record Offices vary on this.
At some you have to reserve a parking place if needed too, or find out in advance where you can park - dont waste yuor precious day driving round looking fora car park!

Once you have got your "readers ticket" (takes about 30 seconds!) you can go off and search.

Take identification with you in order to get the ticket. Once youve got it, it lasts for years so you dont have to do that every time.

Take a pencil or two and plenty of paper.

Think ahead of what you want to look at, so you dont waste time.

Dont be afraid to ask the staff - they are usually very helpful

The time will fly past.

Remember with Family History that every question you answer raises at least two more, and every thing you find means you need to search for at least two more .....

most of all - enjoy


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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #24 on: Friday 05 June 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi lizdb,

Thank you for the advice! The parking I'm sorted for already, just got a nice long walk.

At this moment, I'm thinking my first task will be to look at the 1930/31 Hereford Times obituaries in the hope of  finding a mention of Thomas A Price.

I would also like to look at the Kinnersley Church records in the hope of finding a mention of the birth of George Henry Price, especially as there's no sign of a birth certificate. And from there who knows? I expect what I do find will bring up more confusing questions than answers, but I just hope I can find something or some mention of them.

I'm terribly unorganised. Embarrassed  I don't think I could guarantee either time or day of visiting so I will just hope that there's a fiche/film reader free to use during the time I'm there. I would hate to reserve a reader and then not be able to get there at that time and so stop some other person from using it.

I am really looking forward to searching and finding some mention of my famliy. Thanks again.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #25 on: Friday 05 June 09 16:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bosuns Call,

Hereford use the CARN system so once you get a card you can use it at certain other record offices.  All you need is your driving licence or passport.  It is far better if you can fix a time/day because the fiche and film readers can get booked quickly.  You might want to check whether the archives hold the Hereford Times for the obit, because Hereford Library also holds copies of the Hereford Times (different date periods)

Best wishes,

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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #26 on: Friday 05 June 09 16:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Spidermonkey,

Thank you for the info. I do hold a driving licence card so I'm OK for proof of identity.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call.
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 18:12 UTC (UK) »

Well I did make it to the records office today but only for a short while. I was amazed at how busy it was! I didn't book a reader this time as I couldn't guarantee going today but I shall definitely book one for next time. Fortunately for me the staff were very helpful and I got to use a film reader even though they were all fully booked!

Unfortunately that's where all my good luck ends. I had hoped, even wished that I would have a bit of beginners luck! I was going to go looking for my great granddad George Henry straight away but I thought I should be a bit more methodical.

Despite having a copy of my granddad's birth certificate I double checked and looked at the Letton parish records. I found George James (granddad) baptised on 24 Nov 1901 and his parents were given as George Henry and Louisa Price. So that tallies all in. I found his brother Thomas Arthur baptised 29 Oct 1905 with the same parents. His sister Isabelle Annie baptised 24 Sep 1899. Then I found Eliza/Susan Lucy. In the parish records she was baptised as Elsie Susan 28 Feb 1897, again with the same parents.

I then looked for the film for the Kinnersley parish records but there are none. So I got to look at the actual parish records themselves! Failure. No George Henry Price born in Kinnersley in 1845, nor a decade before or after. I found his brother, James Price baptised 5 Nov 1843 with James Price recorded as the father and Susanna as the mother. James snr. was listed as a gardener.

No Price's listed in 1845. I'm not sure if I found George Henry's brother Arthur as shown in the censuses. I found an Arthur Price baptised 14 Feb 1847 with James Price given as the father and listed as a gardener. The mother was given as Anne. Could this be James' wife who on the censuses referred to herself as Susan, Susanh and Susanah, whilst being listed as Susanna on James' baptism?

I didn't have time to check the Shobdon parish records where the family were previously but that would make George Henry a lot older than he claimed and on all censuses he stated he was born in Kinnersley. I shall still check the Shobdon records, along with those for burial records for Staunton-On-Wye where he is buried. Even if he is recorded and it states he was born in Kinnersley I'm no farther forwards am I?

On the freeBMD I couldn't find George Henry's birth, marriage or death certificate. The superintendent registrar couldn't find his birth certificate either. Now I find there is not even a parish record of his baptism? He's like a man who never was. My mind is running down all avenues.

To compound the mystery for myself, as I got to see the actual parish book, I saw for Arthur's baptism 'George' had been written in, then blotted out before the ink dried and Arthur written over the top. Could George and Arthur be twins? I'm clutching at straws here.

The entry below Arthur was a baptism for a 'George' 21 Feb 1847 but he was listed as a 'Bastard, son of Mary Anne Bury, a single woman from Leominster.' Coincidence and no connection at all?

I don't have a clue what to do next after looking at the Shobdon/Staunton parish records. How can I carry on following the line with James and his wife if I can't even find George Henry? As I say, he's like the man who never was.  Huh

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »

There is a death for a George Henry Price in August 1936 aged 84 in the Weobley District.
This would make GH born in 1852.

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Re: PRICE of Herefordshire
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 19:31 UTC (UK) »


In 1851 James and Susanah are in Kinnersley as follows:

James PRICE  40
Susanna aged 40
Sara aged 13
James aged 8
George aged 6
Arthur aged 4


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