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weesmudge
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Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« on: Wednesday 27 May 09 20:41 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone help me to try and face my family tree. My father was called Ernest Nugent, his own Father came over to Scotland with a name similar to Nuclues or Nucklus, which later came Nyguist then eventually shortened to Nugent. He died in Glasgow 1961 (cremated in Daldowie) and his own Father Ernest also in 1952 roughly. I would love to be able to trace anyone who knew any more of the family or more about the original names.

My Father owned a shop called Nugents Newsagents which was in the Gallowgate (Camlachie) until around 1959.

My Uncle was John Nugent and my great Uncle was Fred Nyguist.

I still live in Glasgow and have done so since my birth in Camlachie, Glasgow

 Smiley
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 21:12 UTC (UK) »

Have youn got your fathers birth certificate which will show both parents names?

Have you got your grandfathers death certificate which should give both his parents names.
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Weesmudge

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley Interesting name to research! Given where you live, I think you need to book yourself in to Park Circus in Glasgow for a day (or two  Roll Eyes) to view BMDs for the family. Much cheaper for you than ordering individual certificates (those after the on line cut offs on Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk).

I can't easily see the way the death of your grandfather Ernest has been indexed on SP c. 1961, but the earlier death for an Ernest is showing in 1953 in Townhead, Glasgow City.

You may be in luck...have a look at this link which I think includes your line of Nyguist:

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/f/Andrew-R-Mcfarlaneslack/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html#Nyquist.

The Ernest who died in 1953 shows as:

Ernst Reimers Nyquist (son of Edward Johansson Nyquist and Johanna Christina Christiansdotter) was born 28 Jun 1887 in Leith, Scotland, and died 1953 in Townhead, Glasgow, Scotland. He married Agnes.

This looks to be the family in Camlachie in the 1901 census, with an indication as to the origin of the surname with the father's place of birth:

John Edward Nyquist 46, Glass Bottle Blower, b. Sweden
John Christine Nyquist 46, b. Sweden
Carl John Nyquist 17, b. Sweden
Gustan Nyquist 16, b Sweden
Ernest Nyquist 13, b. Glasgow
Fred William Nyquist 11, b. Glasgow
Alexander Nyquist 9, b. Glasgow
Janet Christana Nyquist 6, b. Glasgow
John Edward Nyquist 3, b. Glasgow
Lena Christenson 49, sister in law, domestic servant, b. Sweden

Address: 103 Broad St, Camlachie

As suggested by Sancti, you need to work back in stages, verifying names as you go. There looks to be quite a family contingency there in Glasgow from the turn of the 1800s.

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 May 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Monica  i am sitting here reading   your message abt my grandfather Ernest Nugent  the tears are running down my face as i have never even known my great grandparents names untill now i cant thank you enough for the start this has gave me ....the computer is all new to me and dont really know where to start   but i will do as suggested and go to  registar office  i dont have ant certificates only my grandmother Agnes Nugent who married Ernest my grandfather.. and unfortunately there is no one left to my knowledge to ask for info. abt any one as i am the oldest left now   so i have death certificate of Agnes  Grandmother so will take that with me   can you advise me on anything else i could try.     again   Thank You so very much it has filled me with so much emotion
       Regards Agnes   Johnstone [nee Nugent]
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 May 09 20:16 UTC (UK) »

Oh Agnes, you're making me emotional with you!

Here is a recent post regarding Park Circus (now called Strathclyde Genealogy Centre which I didn't know it was now called  Tongue) for background www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,380543.0.html

I think the family tree link I posted has been put together by a descedent of Ernest's sister Jennie Christina, who married a Robert McFarlane given the amount of fairly recent information included for her line. Would be good to find you a way of contacting this line via email...let me see if I can find a way you could this either on the link or on any other posts this person may have done.

It is really them you have to thank  Smiley Huge amount of work on your Nugent line (interesting they show in as Nyquist, with the q rather than g)  there by them which would have been hard for you to find. I think they have probably taken it as far as they could on this line given some of the records are from Sweden....but you never know!

The one that you have to work on is your Gran Agnes  Smiley So that visit to the Strathclyde Genealogy Centre will be excellent for her records on her family details. Her parents' names will be on her marriage cert which will let you work back to their parents etc.

'Where to start with Scottish Research' www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html is a good help guide here on RC.

Start with that and let's see how you go  Smiley Come back at any time either on this line or new post for your Gran if you need some help with her side.

I'll see where I get to trying to find you an email...I'll let you know if I find one.

Monica

Genealogy research will make you a computer wizard by the time you're finished  Wink
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 May 09 20:24 UTC (UK) »

Agnes, that was easier that I thought! This is the Home page of the link I gave earlier. The tree owner's email is on there (hopefully still active) http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/f/Andrew-R-Mcfarlaneslack/index.html

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 May 09 20:36 UTC (UK) »

I've just sent this chap an email on your behalf  Roll Eyes asking him to have a look at this post and try and make contact via RootsChat....fingers crossed  Smiley

www.rhf.org.uk/Newforum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1912&sid=5a3eee26f8c5841d725795d0112c49a3

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
weesmudge
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 May 09 21:08 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley Smiley :)hi Monica  my head is all over the place trying to take all this in i am overwhelmed   it means so much to me i never thought i could ever find anyone as had so little to go on you have been so helpful a cpl. hours ago i knew nothing now at least i have names to put to my family.. thank you ..... lets hope we hear back from this e-mail i am so happy that my family got me this laptop for my 60th birthday   it was so i could try and trace family that i got it  yeeeehaaaa  the reason its all so important to me is my father died in 1961 when he was only 35 yrs old so had no opportunity to find out family history and it now seems so important that i do
     regards Agnes  :
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 May 09 21:16 UTC (UK) »

Just found Ernest's WW1 service papers and medal card roll  Cheesy

I'm going to send you a Private Message (PM). It will come up as a box in the middle of the screen. You can also access it by going to the top of the page and where it says: Welcome back, weesmudge , you have x messages, x are new -  just click on the 'x is new' and this will take you the PM page.

Monica

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 May 09 00:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi my mothers uncle was ernest Nyguist he owned a shop and changed his name to nugent there was six brothers and two sisters .Thier father was Edward John Nyguist born Sweden
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 May 09 08:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

My mothers line desended from your dads older brother Gustave
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 May 09 08:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mel and McFarlane

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley

Really pleased you posted back Melanie! Not sure if you have come across the link I found from Famliy treemaker above (could well be your line McFarlane that has put this together given the amount of recent info for this line Wink) A lot of detailed info on your trees there going back to Sweden.

See Agnes, lots of family here for you  Smiley

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »

Agnes,
I found your message! Some years ago I had contact with a minister from the town of Nodinge in Sweden where our family came from. They were glass bottle makers who came to Camlachie because, I think, of the growing need for glass in the chemical industry.
Ernst Reimers Nyguist b 28 6 1887 in Leith, Scotland was one of 8 children (that I am aware of) of and his father was
Edward Johannesson Nyguist b 5 5 1885  in Sweden and d 17 12 1910 in Glasgow
and Ernst's mother was
Johanna Christina Christiansdotter b 8 9 1885 in Nodinge, Sweden d 17 3 1927 at 103 Broad Street, Glasgow

Ernst's siblings are noted down by Monica in the earlier email

Edward J Nyguist's father was John Jonsson and his mother was Annie Christina both from Sweden and deceased at the time of Edward J Nyguist's death

Johanna Christina's father was
Kristian Larsson b 23 1 1820 in Nodinge, d 1 1 1884 and mother
Sara Brita larssdotter b 28 10 1816 in Tunge, Sweden.  Their other children were

Lena Larssdotter b abt 1852
Johan Larsson b 4 12 1842 Nodinge
Sara Lisa Larsdotter b 15 7 1851 Nodinge
Karin Larsdotter b 7 7 1959

My Grandmother was Janet (Jennie) Christina Nyguist, b 17 3 1895 in Glasgow who married Robert McFarlane on 18 August 1916 in Glasgow.  Robert and Jennie had 13 children, my father Andrew McFarlane b 22 9 1926 at 103 Broad St.

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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi dmcslack

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley Agnes will be chuffed you've got in touch!

It was that link to your family line that contained all that fantastically detailed information on this line  Wink

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Ernest Nugent (previously Nyguist)
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 16:21 UTC (UK) »

Monica, it is good to know that these networks are becoming so effective and well done in bringing Agnes' attention to my tree.

Regards
Drew McFarlane-Slack
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