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Bosuns Call
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Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« on: Wednesday 27 May 09 23:57 UTC (UK) »

I have already mentioned my ggg granddad Robert Hyett and the Hyett's of Herefordshire in a previous post. This is the link to that post:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,384168.0.html

Robert Hyett was born 9 Jan 1812 in Fulford, York, Yorkshire and he was the son of James Hyett my gggg granddad who was born about 1774 in Huntley, Gloucestershire. I found him in the 1851 census in Huntley aged 78 and listed as a pensioner.

From searching other trees on Ancestry I found his marriage to a Susannah Ladle on 16 Feb 1794 and 5 younger children besides Robert. The oldest child was William born 1800 in Darlington, Devon. Followed by James born 1802 Edinburgh, Scotland. Susannah born 1804 Longford, Ireland. John born 1807 Southampton, Hampshire. Thomas born 1809 Cantebury, Kent. Robert was the last child between James and Susannah.

I also found he from other trees he died 17 Dec 1852 in Huntley. His wife Susannah is listed as being born in 1772 in Norwich, Norfolk.

I could not comprehend why their children should be born in different locations, sadly long before the censuses. One tree did mention he was a soldier in the British Army. This would make sense. How would I go about finding out in which regiment he served? Are they any members on this forum who share James Hyett as an ancestor who know which regiment he served in? Either way I shall be grateful of any and all advice offered my way concerning the Hyett family as this is as far back in the line as I've gone.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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ChasH
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 May 09 08:16 UTC (UK) »


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From searching other trees on Ancestry . . . . . . Snip


I also found he from other trees he died 17 Dec 1852 in Huntley.

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One should not accept anything given on others' trees unless it has reliable provenance which one could and should check on root source documents.  Too many people glibly quote submitted info. found in the IGI and many of those data are fairytales.  GRO references from freebmd etc. re death registrations are acceptable for it's hardly worthwhile buying a d-cert unless exact details are needed.

What hard evidence such as birth & marriage cert's, church records from RO's etc. have you managed to obtain?  You should give concise provenance (e.g. PR's, BT's, censuses, m/b-certs etc) for details if you have any because it might save a chatter from nugatory searching.

By the way, it might be an idea to confine your queries to what you need to know rather than giving a full history of what you've been told/found.

Regards

Chas
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 May 09 17:57 UTC (UK) »

Bosun,

In addition to my last and as I had some spare time , I've tried to verify some of the info. you have.  See {my findings} below


  . . . snip . . . . The oldest child was William born 1800 in Darlington, Devon.
{Dartington Devon - appropriate church records not filmed by the LDS BUT there's an IGI entry extracted from Totnes records (1.4 miles from Dartington, see Parloc from http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parlocdl.html ) giving a William HYOTT christening - see  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyDevon_(N-Z).htm#T }

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 John born 1807 Southampton, Hampshire.
{No IGI entry for John in 1807 +/- 5}

Thomas born 1809 Cantebury, Kent.
{No IGI entry for Thomas in 1809 +/- 5}


Have you had a look at Genuki?  You'll find lots of help, guidance and links there, go to http://www.genuki.org.uk/

Regards

Chas
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Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 May 09 19:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chas,

I haven't looked at Genuki. I'm sorry if I haven't gone the right way about posting on this site. I've done most of my searching on Ancestry, FamilySearch and IGI. I suppose I may have been too trusting when it came to family trees on Ancestry but there were duplicate trees that all tied in so I assumed their being correct. I only added so much information on the posts in the hope that one of the members on here may have a tree that crosses with mine and they could then stand me corrected whether I was right or wrong.

If you feel that I have posted improperly or wrongly, please feel free to delete this post and I can amend the Hyett's of Herefordshire post and remove the link.

Thank you very much for taking the time to search for those records. It does seem that I cannot trust any of the family tree records concerning the Hyetts.

The only truths I can now be sure of from finding them myself in the censuses are, that my great granddad was James Percival Hyett born 1872 in Mountain Ash, Glamorgan. His dad was Frederick James Hyett born 1845 in Llandinabo, Herefordshire. While his dad, my ggg granddad was Robert Hyett born 1812 in the City of York.

Without the use of other Ancestry trees I have no connection of my own to link any man as the father of Robert Hyett. So as it stands there is no tangible connection with Gloucestershire. I leave it to your judgement over the deletion of this post. Thank you again for the advice and searching.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 May 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bosuns Call, welcome to the Gloucestershire Board  Smiley

Looking at burials in Huntley can't see James Hyett  Undecided  There is a Susan Hyett aged 78 buried 22nd December 1851.  This is from the Forest of Dean Family History Society transcriptions online, free to search but you need to register. http://www.forest-of-dean.net/

Hyett is not an uncommon name in this area, you need to find a definite link from Robert to James, do the trees you found give sources?  Did James leave a Will?

If he was a soldier in the British Army, put a request on the Armed Forces board, where someone will be able to point you in the right direction to search for any records regarding his army service.  Include a link to this thread, to save duplication of effort.

No need for your post to be deleted, very often helps to have background information.

Regards

Susan  Smiley 
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Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 May 09 22:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi Susan,

Thanks for the welcome. Thank you too for searching and the Forest of Dean link.

Since I last checked on Ancestry several of the members seem to have gone private and what sources that were mentioned have been removed.

I shall have to go back to Robert and start again. Thanks for your help.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 May 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »

By the way, it might be an idea to confine your queries to what you need to know rather than giving a full history of what you've been told/found.



This is absolutely the reverse of what we prefer!!

Please do give all relevant information - and telling us where you found us allows us to draw conclusions about its reliability (or otherwise!) so that should be included.

There is nothing worse than chasing around looking for something - only to discover that the basis is " a family story" rather than a document as we has supposed.

Chas knows better than to be rude to new posters on the Gloucestershire board and he can be very helpful, so I trust you won't be put off!

 Roll Eyes

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 May 09 19:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Arranroots,

I shall not be put off from posting. Perhaps he was having an 'off' day? We all have one of those from time to time.  Wink

I still have a known Gloucester connection with Robert Hyett's wife Ann. In the censuses Ann is consistent about her birth, which is about 1812.

In the 1871 census, in Llandinabo Class: RG10; Piece: 2689; Folio: 30; Page: 7 Ann claims to have been born in Huntley, Gloucestershire.

In the 1861 census, in Llandinabo Class: RG9; Piece: 1815; Folio: 97; Page: 8 Ann claims to have been born in Longhope, Gloucestershire.

In the 1851 census, in Llandinabo Class: HO107; Piece: 1976; Folio: 569; Page: 4 Ann again claimed to have been born in Longhope, Gloucestershire.

On Ancestry, in 'those' dubious family trees, they claimed that Ann's maiden name was either Field or Drew and that she was born in Westbury-on-Severn, Gloucestershire.

With my census search alone I think there must be a link with Ann Hyett and Gloucestershire so, I will continue to search and post on the Gloucestershire board.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 June 09 12:51 UTC (UK) »

I now believe that I have found Ann Hyett in the 1841 census, listed in the civil parish of Lower and Upper Longhope, Gloucestershire and I believe living in Lower Longhope.

The 1841 census is:
HO107/361/3 Folio 14 Page 22

Her husband Robert is missing from the census but their children Robert, Martha and Alfred are listed on here as in the later censuses, but with an older daughter, Ann who I was unaware of. Also living in the same property are a William and Mary Drew. William claims to be aged 60 and a stone mason. Perhaps this is why the people on Ancestry believed that Ann's maiden name was Drew? So far I have been unable to locate her husband Robert Hyett in the 1841 census.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call

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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I took a look at the Ancestry trees for your ancestor. There are a few with Ann in them, very interesting that some quote Ann Drew and others with Ann Field and one with Ann Field Drew.  Well I checked the FoD site and I found a Ann Field; you may want to take a look as suggested by Susan in an earlier message.

However, there is a record of a marriage to Robert Hyett in May 1834 at St Mary De Lode in Gloucester in one of those ancestry trees. Worth persuing?!

Tomorrow I will be going to Gloucester Records Office.  I will take a look at both the parish records for Westbury on Severn and at St Mary De Lode for you.  This will then help you move in the right direcetion.  I will PM you with the info.

Kind regards

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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Frankie,

Thanks for searching and thank you for the very kind offer. The St Mary De Lode marriage of a Robert Hyett sounds very promising. I have now done what Susan and you suggested and joined the FoD site.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Just to let you know I have sent you a PM.
Frankie
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 17:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Frankie,

Thank you very much for the PM. Your findings do seem to connect and fit together. I shall keep you informed as and when I find out anymore on the FoD site. It's great to be getting some progress in one are of the family tree.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 July 09 00:19 UTC (UK) »

I may at last be able to piece together some of my Hyett family tree thanks to RootsChat! I firmly believed that if my ggg grandfather Robert Hyett could be found in York and if I could corroborate the facts about his father James being a soldier and if I could get hold of his military records then I could build up a picture of the Hyett family.

I posted a thread in the Yorkshire section asking for a look-up of Robert Hyett and the brilliant Pinetree came up trumps for me. The link to this thread is below:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,392590.0.html

Pinetree was able to confirm that Robert was born 9 Jan 1812, baptized 19 Jan 1812 and that he was the son of James and Susanna (HYATT) and James was a Sergeant in the 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queens Bays).

I have since visited the 1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards and obtained the military records of James Hyett. This seems to be from where the people with trees on Ancestry found their information. I now believe that one of the members who has since made their tree private had paid the £25 like myself to obtain the records and get this information.

James and Susannah's children are listed in the muster rolls as follows:

William baptized  31 Aug 1800 at Totnes, Devon.
James born 1802 at Piershill Barracks, Edinburgh.
Susannah born 1804 at Longford, Ireland.
John born 1807 in Southampton, Hampshire.
Thomas born 1809 in Canterbury, Kent.
Robert baptized 9 Jan 1812 in Fulford, Yorkshire.

After being discharged and pensioned out of the army James returned with his family to Huntley, Gloucestershire his place of birth. James was listed as being born c1773 and having died 11 Jul 1852. So I do have a definitive link with Huntley.

I have a few queries about James' military career which I shall post in the armed forces section and which I shall post a link to from this thread.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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Re: Hyett's of Gloucestershire
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 July 09 12:56 UTC (UK) »

As promised, the link to the armed forces thread on James Hyett.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,395727.0.html

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
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