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Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« on: Monday 06 July 09 03:27 UTC (UK) »

Hello listers

I am seeking help to try and resolve whether family hearsay regarding my Great Grandmother, Elizabeth Dye, is correct or otherwise.

My Great Grandmother is said to have been a nanny to Lady Dianna Duff-Cooper (nee Manners, 1892 – 1986), the youngest daughter of the 8th Duke of Rutland. The event is said to have been mentioned in the memoirs of (Lord) Duff-Cooper.

Unfortunately I can find no confirmation of the event. There is no reference that I have found in "The Duff-Cooper Diaries" although there may be other memoirs that I have not located. The only "supporting" information I have found is that my Great Grandmother is listed as being a Nurse Domestic on both the 1901 and 1911 Census returns.

Any advice on how I can check this event further would be appreciated.

Cheers
Ian
Melbourne, Australia
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charlotteCH
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 July 09 05:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ian and welcome to rootschat.

Maybe you should try to track down a biography or better and autobiography of Diana Manners -Duff-Cooper as  her childhood days would most likely mention her nanny- so family heresay would thus be confirmed or dismissed.
Perhaps a place to see if such a book exists would be in the British Library collection.  It is searchable online- try both Manners and Duff-Cooper. You'd then know if such a book has been published in Britain.
You should then be able to borrow a book on interlibrary loan if such a book exists.
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 July 09 19:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ian

This site might give you a bit more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Diana_Manners

regards
yokel
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 01:08 UTC (UK) »

Maybe you should try to track down a biography or better and autobiography of Diana Manners -Duff-Cooper as  her childhood days would most likely mention her nanny- so family heresay would thus be confirmed or dismissed.

Hi Charlotte

Thank you for the suggestion. I have located two works on Lady Diana Cooper that I will check out.

Cheers
Ian
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 01:10 UTC (UK) »

This site might give you a bit more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Diana_Manners

Hi Yokel

Thank you for the reference. A very interesting life.

Cheers
Ian
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 04:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Ian, let us know how you get on... tracking down a book and then if the book gives you the info you seek.

Funny that The Duke of Rutland is in your enquiry as my grandparents had in their employ his one ex-cook... don't know if that reassuring about the fare to be had at my grandparents dinner table or not Huh  Wink

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 05:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Ian, let us know how you get on... tracking down a book and then if the book gives you the info you seek.

Hi Charlotte

I located two books in my local library:

(1) "Autobiography: The rainbow comes and goes; The light of common day; Trumpets from the sleep", Cooper, Diana, Lady, Vicountess of Norwich; Salisbury, Michael Russell, 1979.

(2) "Diana Cooper", Ziegler, Philip; London, Hamilton, 1981.

The former makes extensive reference to the nannies of Diana Manners. Unfortunately, none of the four mentioned were my Great Grandmother. I am now inclined to believe that the hearsay within my family is not substantiated.

Thank you for your help.

Cheers
Ian
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Re: Lady Dianna Manners (1892-1986)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 05:38 UTC (UK) »

That's disappointing Ian,   but stories circulate  and grow in families and mostly tend to go upwardly mobile Grin

Is yout g. grandmother in any census shown as living in the vicinity of that lot?

If not, then at least you have checked it out so no point in going down that path again...

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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