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Lorand
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I have a record of:
Ann Galloway and George McCall -married 30 July 1869, Cadder, Lanark.
Does anyone have records of their parents or their children?
thanks
Lorraine
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liverbird09
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Hi Lorraine
I have a possible: George McCall b 1846 Cadder
His parents: James McCall m 1841 Jean Johnston
1851 Census shows this family living in Chryston Cadder.
Hope this is useful.
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Lorand
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Hi Liverbird,
Yes, this looks like my family line. I have George McCall born 1843 and Ann Galloway b 1845, and married 30/7/1869 but I may be wrong. Do you have any definite info of their marriage date?
What I would really love to get is a birth cert. for their son James born c1865 and if there were any other children born to George and Ann.
If my records are right it makes James born four years before their marriage ... seems a bit strange and I'm just wondering if George was James' father. Can you advise as to whether my records are accurate. 
Many thanks
Lorraine
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capricorn
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This looks a possible birth for James, taken from IGI
JAMES BLUE GALLOWAY
08 JUN 1865 Cadder, Lanark
Mother: ANN GALLOWAY
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capricorn
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1881 census
Census Place: St Ninians, Stirling,
Address.........Gardeners Ho
George MC CALL age 40 born Stair, Ayr. occ. Domestic gardener
Ann MC CALL age 40 born Maryhill, Lanark
James MC CALL age 15 born Auchinmain, Lanark, Scotland
Son, occ. Domestic gardener
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Lorand
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Thanks for your input, Capricorn.
I would still like to make sure George was James' father as the gap between his birth and their marriage is quite big - 4 years. Do you know if George was mentioned as the father on James's birth certificate, or did it just state his mother's name? If James adopted him, I would have to investigate who his biological father was.
I have definite records that both George and James were gardeners, so it looks like they were connected somehow.
Thanks again
Lorraine
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liverbird09
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Hi again,
My interest has been with Mary McCall b 1855 in Cadder. If we are with the same family, that is George's younger sister.
Their father James was a brick maker. The 1861 census shows George aged 15 also brickmaker.
Unfortunately, I have no further facts about George's marriage and children, as I have been following Mary.
Good luck with your search.
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Gadget
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Hi Lorraine
There is no father's name mentioned on James's birth cert. It just says illegitimate under his name and his mother as Ann Galloway, farm servant and there is no marginal correction which might indicate paternity. If George was the father, his birth would have been made legitimate on George and Ann's marriage if they were both elligible to marry at the time of his birth.
I would think that it would be practically impossible to discover who his biological father was. From the censuses, George appears to have been his 'social' father though 
Regards
Gadget
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capricorn
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There's a submitted enrty on familysearch for a birth for a George McCall born Stair, Ayrshire. Downloading George and Ann's marriage cert. from scotlandspeople will confirm his parents
George McCall
Birth:
10 MAY 1839 Tralboch Burn, Stair, Ayr
Father: Samuel McCall
Mother: Marion Seaton
1851 census for George McCall born Stair
Parish: Sorn
Address: Catrine, Wood Street
MCCALL Samuel age 46, occ Tailor born Auchinleck
MCCALL Marion age 46 occ Domestic Affairs born Sorn
MCCALL Jean, daughter age 19 occ. Power Loom Weaver born Stair
MCCALL Agnes daughter age 15. occ.Power Loom Weaver born Stair
MCCALL Janet daughter, age 13, occ. Power Loom Weaver born Stair
MCCALL George, son age 11 Scholar born Stair
MCCALL Sarah daughter age 8, born Stair
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Lorand
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Oh, now I am really confused. It looks as though George McCall was only 19 when James Galloway was born, which might explain why they didn't get married for a few years after James' birth.
However, my records have both George and James as domestic gardeners and from St Ninians and not bricklayers, so my George McCall's parents must have been James and Jean and not Samuel and Marion.
It seems as though there were two families, as there are different birth dates for George Mc Call......more confusing!!
I will have to sit down and work it out, but thanks to all of you for helping and for the birth certificate, Gadget.
Lorraine
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capricorn
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Hi Lorraine
George McCall wasn't born in St Ninians although he lived there in 1881
According to the census George was born in Stair, Ayrshire.
I tried to have a look at their marriage cert. to see their parents names, but there's no image on scotlandspeople for some reason.
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capricorn
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George McColl died 27th December 1921 in Rutherglen age 83 years, gardener, retired.
Married to Ann Galloway
Father, Samuel McColl
Mother, Marion Seaton
Cert. was signed by Ann McColl
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Lorand
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Hi Everyone,
I am still uncertain as to who George McCall's parents were. I have a feeling he was James McCall and Jean Johnson's son, and not Samuel and Marion McCall's, as the name James has been passed down every gerneration of the McCall line and he would have been younger at the time of the illegitimate birth, and perhaps not in a position to get married.
I would need to get George's birth cert. to find out his parents and am having trouble with Scotlands People and IGI. Maybe the 1861 census will show if there was a George McCall working in the same household as Ann Galloway and by his age would give a clearer idea of whose son he is.
Thanks for all your help
Lorraine
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Gadget
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Hi Lorraine
The 1881 census information that capricorn listed has George as b. Stair, Ayrshire and she also gives his birth there:
George McCall
Birth:
10 MAY 1839 Tralboch Burn, Stair, Ayr
Father: Samuel McCall
Mother: Marion Seaton
1881 census
Census Place: St Ninians, Stirling,
Address.........Gardeners Ho
George MC CALL age 40 born Stair, Ayr. occ. Domestic gardener
Ann MC CALL age 40 born Maryhill, Lanark
James MC CALL age 15 born Auchinmain, Lanark, Scotland
Son, occ. Domestic gardener
This is confirmed by the death cert info.
It might well be that the James name is from Ann Galloway's line.
Regards
Gadget
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capricorn
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Hi Lorraine,
Looking at the 1861 census for George, he's listed on his own.
County: Midlothian
Address: Ravelston
George McCall age 21, born Stair, Ayrshire
occ. Gardener (journeyman)
I think you need to get George and Ann's marriage cert. as I said, the image is not on SP, but you can either order it or email SP asking them why.
Everything points to Samuel McCall and Marion Smeaton as being his parents, I can email you the death cert. if you'd like it
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