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NormanE
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PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« on: Friday 29 May 09 03:11 UTC (UK) »

Trying to locate the records of Sarah Isabella born UK 1875 and Maurice H PURTON born UK 1866 in Canada.
Sarah Isabella ne SANDERSON gave birth to Maurice Joseph PURTON 1904 at Bradbourne Alberta.  Husband  Maurice H PURTON was listed as a widower in 1911 Canadian Census and was a hired hand in BC. There may have been other children after 1904. I do know that Maurice Joseph was back in the UK by the UK 1911 census being cared for by an aunt.
Any advice gratefully received.
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 May 09 03:25 UTC (UK) »

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2E14C39/search
Sarah Purton, died 1908 7 23, age 33, place: Chilliwack
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Mumford: Essex/Canada          Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada      Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada      Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 May 09 03:38 UTC (UK) »

Didn't see Purton mentioned on the British Columbia Cemetery Finding Aid:
http://www.islandnet.com/bccfa/homepage.html

Sorry, not finding anything else.
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Mumford: Essex/Canada          Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada      Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada      Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 May 09 03:56 UTC (UK) »

Did Maurice H have a sister named Harriet?

According to the 1911 census, Harriet Purton (born circa May 1883) arrived in Canada in 1909.  I wonder if she arrived after Sarah's death, to help take care of Maurice J?
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=33259

She married Cap Franklin Jones 5 March 1915 in Chilliwack.
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-14B36CB/search
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Mumford: Essex/Canada          Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada      Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada      Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 May 09 09:19 UTC (UK) »

Dear Lisa
Thank you for your interest in my search.
First of all the death record for 1908 is great,thank you.
So it means that Maurice J would probably not come back to the UK until after 1908 and there might be other siblings. After Maurice J 's death in 1983 my wife received a bequest via a possible brother( we have lost the contact details unfortunately)
Family legend says that Maurice's second mother after his father remarried did not like him and this was the reason he was brought up by his half aunt Margaret in Newcastle England. Maurice J was an epileptic.
Now we have this new situation of, not a second wife but another possible aunt arriving in the Chilliwack area where Maurice H was. Can't believe its a coincidence although I can't find Harriet 1883 in the UK so far. Will keep on looking.
Can I try another query arising from Maurice Joseph's birth certificate?
Maurice H Purton's occupation is listed as (unclear printing) as a C(G)a(e) ster. Any ideas Lisa?
Greetings to California
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 May 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
 - oddly enough, when I looked for Maurice and Sarah's emigration to Canada here I found M. H. Purton, b. 1866-ish, heading to Australia in 1894.

Then I saw Maurice Henry Purton and Sarah Isabella Purton on the 1903 Queensland electoral rolls (and Maurice there again in later years):

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/MarIndexQry.m
 Maurice Henry Purton + Sarah Isabella Sanderson, married 1903 in Queensland.

According to Queensland records, Maurice was at some point a teacher:
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/downloads/Indexes/Teachers_Peterson-TaylorRobert.pdf
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 May 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »

Jorose
WOW what a surprise,and thank you !!
Now I have situation with one loose end. My reading of the Canadian 1911 Census with the widowed Maurice H Purton in it suggests he first came to Canada in 1894.
So can we suppose that he passed on to Australia through Canada all in 1894.
Now presumably Sarah Isabella Sanderson came out to Australia from the UK ( I can't find her in the 1901 UK census)  and met and married Maurice H in 1903.  The next step was to move as a couple to Canada between 1903 and 1904(Birth of Maurice Joseph).
Is the rest History?
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 May 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »

Maurice might have taken the question about immigration to mean when he left the UK, not when he came to Canada. If they sailed from Australia directly to Canada, they probably came in to British Columbia (or maybe via the west coast of the US?).
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 May 09 17:02 UTC (UK) »

Re 1894
Good point.
Now to look for their exit from Australia and arrival in Canada. Still suspicious of their being an additional child to Maurice J. I found the reference to Maurice 1904 Canadian Birth Place in the UK 1911 census. The Canadian Births seem frozen at 1903 for legal reasons unforunately.
Again thank you for your vigour and support
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 May 09 17:42 UTC (UK) »

Maurice Henry appears to have returned to Australia again, because he's shown back in Queenland in 1919, 1925, 1930 electoral records (I can't access these fully so I don't know if anybody was with him - maybe a second wife?)

You should be able to find also Maurice Joseph's return to England on the incoming records, and see who he travelled with.
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 May 09 20:22 UTC (UK) »

Maurice Henry appears to have returned to Australia again, because he's shown back in Queenland in 1919, 1925, 1930 electoral records (I can't access these fully so I don't know if anybody was with him - maybe a second wife?)

It may be a different person unless Maurice had a change of occupation. On those electoral rolls he is listed as a dairyman (1919) and farm assistant (1925 and 1930). He is the only Purton listed on each page. On the 1903 electoral roll, that Maurice is listed as a school master.

There is a Harriet Purton on the 1911 Canada census who was born May 1883 and immigrated in 1909 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. She was a domestic servant in the household of John and Agnes Falls. Here's a link to the census image at Library and Archives Canada (she's on line 5):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001953431.pdf

I found Harriet on a passenger list. She arrived in Montreal on the Canada on 27 Aug 1908 and her final destination was listed as Winnipeg. Here's a link to the image at LAC (she's the last person on page):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e144/e003591740.jpg

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 03:50 UTC (UK) »

Maurice Henry appears to have returned to Australia again, because he's shown back in Queenland in 1919, 1925, 1930 electoral records (I can't access these fully so I don't know if anybody was with him - maybe a second wife?)

You should be able to find also Maurice Joseph's return to England on the incoming records, and see who he travelled with.

Thanks for this and the news he's back in Australia.
So far I haven't found any references to Maurice Joseph's incoming.
As of yesterday I can discount the Harriet story. Harriet doesn't fit into the gruelling series of 12 births undertaken by Maurice Henry's mother Rose Blanche ne Pountney between 1866 and 1886.
Warmest Thanks
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 04:05 UTC (UK) »

Maurice Henry appears to have returned to Australia again, because he's shown back in Queenland in 1919, 1925, 1930 electoral records (I can't access these fully so I don't know if anybody was with him - maybe a second wife?)

It may be a different person unless Maurice had a change of occupation. On those electoral rolls he is listed as a dairyman (1919) and farm assistant (1929 and 1930). He is the only Purton listed on each page. On the 1903 electoral roll, that Maurice is listed as a school master.

There is a Harriet Purton on the 1911 Canada census who was born May 1883 and immigrated in 1909 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. She was a domestic servant in the household of John and Agnes Falls. Here's a link to the census image at Library and Archives Canada (she's on line 5):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001953431.pdf

I found Harriet on a passenger list. She arrived in Montreal on the Canada on 27 Aug 1908 and her final destination was listed as Winnipeg. Here's a link to the image at LAC (she's the last person on page):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e144/e003591740.jpg

Jacquie

Jacqui
Thanks for your interest

You will see from my reply to Jorose that we can discount Harriet from the story.
Your news of Maurice H being back in Australia opens a new thread for me.
Am just starting a new attempt at going back via Maurice Joseph. I hope to find his will  and hence details of a possible relative executor also any newspaper reports of his funeral.
Greetings from a sunny England
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 04:28 UTC (UK) »

As I said in my post that might not be the same Maurice Henry on the 1919, 1925 and 1930 electoral rolls. It seems like a drastic change in profession to go from a school master in 1903 to a farm labourer. Also there was no other Purton listed with the Maurice who is on the 1919, 1925 and 1930 rolls which would seem to indicate that he was not married. As well, the Maurice in the 1903 entry was in Capricornia, Queensland while the 1919, 1925 and 1930 Maurice was in Herbert, Queensland.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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Re: PURTON Family in Canada after 1894
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 June 09 17:54 UTC (UK) »

Jacquie
Another twist in the Purton Story which I hope to be able to to tell you all about eventualy. In essence Maurice Henry did go to Australia and New Zealand and died in a Care Home having lived for several years handicapped from a farming Accident.
What I have found out today is that Maurice Henry had a second son born July 14th 1908. Maurices wife died July 23rd 1908 at Chilliwack Alberta so the second son Lawrence Humphrey must have been born there.
Jacquie as the birth was after 1905 is there a way I can access this?
Regards
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