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Kiwibarb
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CARPENTER
« on: Sunday 31 May 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »
Looking for any information on Martin Carpenter and his wife Mary, surname unknown.

Martin Carpenter b abt 1805 Bedminster, Somerset.
Married Mary ?? around 1828.
Possible death for Martin in 1843 Bristol.

I cannot find a marriage for Martin & Mary, would anyone know where I might find a marriage please. 

Martin & Mary had at least 4 children.  George, Mary Ann Elizabeth and William.

Any help on this family would be appreciated thanks.

Regards
Barbara
Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 May 09 11:00 UTC (UK) »
Hullo Barbara,
Have you tried to find them on the  IGI?
Go to familysearch and click on link of LHS of page then follow the prompts.  That may help you find a parish register with their marriage in.

Re their birth dates... 1851 census should help - and would at least show if Mary was a widow by then. Also would give kids ages.. and places of birth.

You may have tried all this- sorry if I'm just repeating what you've done...
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 May 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »
Barbara,

Firstly, welcome to the best place there is.

Bedminster is in Somerset so that forum may be able to help you.

However, in my list of LDS Batch numbers at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,275211.0.html you will find some batches extracted from Bedminster church records.  One might give the answer to your query.

Regarding searching the batches, use the alternative method which can be the easier option. (Added - you will have to give location of course!)

Regards

Chas

P.S.

I've checked Batch C001765 without entering a surname and all the contents of the batch were given.  The years covered include 1805 but no CARPENTERs are to be found.

This can be because
1.  They were not baptized (at least not in Bedminster)
2.  They were Roman Catholics (No LDS films of RC records for Bed')
3.  An LDS member has "used" the info and the details have been deleted from the batch.  Their presence as submitted entries in the IGI does not mean they were once in the batch and a search of other doc's is required.

Have a look at the LDS library catalogue for details of LDS films available for hire at LDS FHC's.

Chas
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 May 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Chas much appreciate your recommendations.

Regards
Barbara
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 June 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »
I've had a look on Bristol, Gloucestershire & North Somerset marriage index cds for that time and there was no Martin.

Also had a look at a baptisms cd and can't see a Martin on there.
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 June 09 21:31 UTC (UK) »
nameless,
Thank you for taking the time to look up the info for me.

I am going only by what is on the 1841 Census that he was born in Somerset, Parish of Bedminster.
Lived in East Street, difficult to read.

Unfortunately the 1841 census doesn't tell you a lot.

Again thank you.

Regards
Barbara Smiley
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 12:47 UTC (UK) »
Barbara,

A person's birthplace given in censuses - especially 1841 and 51 - depends on the question asked by the enumerator.  For instance, what could be the replies to, "Where are you from?"?  Birthplace or where the census was held?  Besides that, the person might only remember growing up in the place given without knowing his parents had moved from somewhere else just after his/her birth.  It is also possible that the enumerator did not ask so just put the census location when he was completing his enumeration tasks at home.

Looks like you have to shop around a bit.  Many of the parishes in SOM have not had their church data extracted by the LDS from their films.  Using Parloc - see http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parlocdl.html - you can find parishes near Bedminster and using the procedure at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/FindingBatchNos.html you can find out if the LDS have filmed its records and also if the data has been extracted.  This is not 100% accurate though for many batches of data are difficult to find!

Regards

Chas
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »
Chas,
Thank you once again for your valuable input.

Barbara  Smiley
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 22:21 UTC (UK) »
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=2422726


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=647389

Just throwing these in the mix,may be of use?
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 22:37 UTC (UK) »
Hepburn,

Thank you very much, will take a look.

Regards
Barbara
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 23:15 UTC (UK) »
Hepburn,

Thank you so very much for the links you posted.
Certainly looks like that is my family.  I am so excited to be able to find family so far back.  George & Betty are my GGGGgrandparents.

Again thank you Grin
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 01:44 UTC (UK) »
Hepburn,

If I can at all help you with your New Zealand Contacts please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards
Barbara
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Barbara for your offer,thats nice to know  Smiley
                           
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Kiwibarb
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 07 June 09 02:36 UTC (UK) »
On searching through the Free Reg for my Carpenter family, have found the baptism of Robert Carpenter.  He was baptised the same day as a brother Martin Carpenter my ggg grandfather..........could these two be twins??

The file numbers are 5489 for Martin and 5560 for Robert........with different file no's could it be that they were just baptised the same day??

I not there is a birth date for Martin but none for Robert.  Would the file # give the birth info or is what is on Free reg all this is available on the original record??

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Barbara Smiley
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Re: CARPENTER
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 07 June 09 06:24 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Kiwibarb on Sunday 07 June 09 02:36 UTC (UK)
On searching through the Free Reg for my Carpenter family, have found the baptism of Robert Carpenter.  He was baptised the same day as a brother Martin Carpenter my ggg grandfather..........could these two be twins??

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Barbara Smiley

The reason for multiple baptisms of children on the same day can be because of the vicar's, "drumming up business" after the bishop perhaps had had a word with him during his annual visitation and even, "n for the price of x" I dare say Grin 

I have found, in my wanderings through church records, that baptism registers often give that a family's two children baptised on the same day were twins.  I do not know if the terms of reference for FreeReg data copying say that such info should be given, perhaps you should contact them to find out.

Regards

Chas
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